From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JC7jS-0001Mg-Sb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:14:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4442CE090B; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0516DE090B for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so3967384fga.14 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:14:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:sender; bh=vJYEK3UEhFFFWs+u1skjkdxrS5LnDm0WTEotnoYfUFU=; b=XFxetV0z25dCMzQUEXVASET32qBUuKVLcywpmYxAizjZVxY1Npl74bU7/yljsinf72huq4bxLyHoqF/SnIhAqLeRRJcH41BzlmmmtRkdp3xae5wfx79x/e7yNnp0rob+d1UU1KYaY9h3BD90C8cHQ7GciC4IB7UsBOXQpP6fwv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:sender; b=VdMWWFR1Vqv8Tdu3DZzVGXSyPGo5wj33eqtnccKgvT+JyNvSJWf+x63A9JwpozzOwMxqsvQm0061KVrEyn6c5QHlvP2Amw9qz2H4xO/6Sc8ybRwBxG6y5cjiSuPsfr+vIGY87ZKlTebbJ0SoSQ6ZbJW3k7WMdfBqeqc9KbDtePA= Received: by 10.86.25.17 with SMTP id 17mr20937222fgy.28.1199772874143; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoebe.lan ( [212.76.57.12]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j9sm2394780mue.6.2008.01.07.22.14.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:14:33 -0800 (PST) From: Piotr =?utf-8?q?Jaroszy=C5=84ski?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 07:14:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <4782CBC0.102@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4782CBC0.102@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801080714.30319.peper@gentoo.org> Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgSmFyb3N6ecWEc2tp?= X-Archives-Salt: caa3fbde-330e-4a1a-8fa8-8a579b8fb18e X-Archives-Hash: 67283fc5ebeae7c68ed4a5ec213d9ba8 On Tuesday 08 of January 2008 02:02:56 Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: > Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten=C3=B2 kirjoitti: > > Here comes the official proposal, copy and paste from my blog with an > > extra post scriptum at the end. > > > > I already ranted about the fact that the dependency tree of our ebuilds > > is vastly incomplete, as many lack dependency on zlib; trying to get > > this fixed was impossible, as Donnie and other insisted that as zlib was > > in system, we shouldn=E2=80=99t depend on it at all. I disagree, and I = would > > like to know why we can=E2=80=99t depend on a system package, but whate= ver. > > At least one reason is that otherwise lots of ebuild submissions would > have coreutils/gcc/libc/whatever in DEPEND/RDEPEND. We could probably introduce some fancy virtuals like c-toolchain to reduce = the=20 bloat, but the transition would be somehow tricky... would probably need a= =20 list of already converted packages. =2D-=20 Best Regards, Piotr Jaroszy=C5=84ski -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list