From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBf0Z-0002Mi-OS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:34:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99DDBE03CA; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 23:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2493DE03CA for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 23:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAA08D306 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:40:22 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ferdyx.org Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno.ferdyx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ANScn+EK8xQx for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:40:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from snowcone (unknown [213.121.151.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E778D305 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:40:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 23:34:12 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Message-ID: <20080106233412.5875626f@snowcone> In-Reply-To: References: <20080101103002.083C4652C4@smtp.gentoo.org> <54551.192.168.2.159.1199365359.squirrel@www.aei-tech.com> <477D75CA.1030003@gentoo.org> <20080104000155.23e056b4@snowcone> <20080104004653.039f488e@snowcone> <20080104012750.63f4f23a@snowcone> <63044.68.54.223.178.1199445791.squirrel@www.aei-tech.com> <20080104210213.50a99e6b@snowcone> <61164.68.54.223.178.1199485599.squirrel@www.aei-tech.com> <20080104223754.3fb48b85@snowcone> <1199506818.7609.30.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <20080105043233.0935d2f8@snowcone> <61307.68.54.223.178.1199541823.squirrel@www.aei-tech.com> <20080106003356.46087fef@snowcone> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/z=WhCPY+2.jDj6iABR5KTii"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: d7e544e8-a75f-4f87-80bb-749145f43ff1 X-Archives-Hash: 933047bc7fc7646b72b2f233d5cdbb4a --Sig_/z=WhCPY+2.jDj6iABR5KTii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 11:36:06 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > > How will providing specific examples of how people are being held up > > not be beneficial to the decision-making process? >=20 > First you have to acknowledge that old perpetually open bugs and old=20 > unmaintained ebuilds are a maintenance burden. There seems to be a=20 > consensus among maintainers that they are, but when given the > examples of xfce and media-* you responded that those are not a > priority for the archs in question. Well, that's nice, but they are > for the maintainers of those herds and that's what we're talking > about. We're not actively looking for ways to dump more work on the > arch teams, but we're also tired of having more work dumped on us. > We're looking for a solution that has both sides happy here, but that > won't happen if you don't admit there's a problem. Ok, so explain: * How perpetually open bugs are a maintenance burden. They don't generate emails and they don't require any work on the maintainer's part. Is the mere fact that they show up in queries all you're concerned about, and if so, have you considered either adapting your queries or requesting a special keyword to make such bugs easier to filter? * How unmaintained ebuilds are a maintenance burden. Doesn't that contradict itself? --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/z=WhCPY+2.jDj6iABR5KTii Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHgWV296zL6DUtXhERAq+1AKDjkoQpWLreg+nGQrA258sNUSCyGACgz6oX Lf+A5C6w2Rxql2MWr9ebeP4= =kXrV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/z=WhCPY+2.jDj6iABR5KTii-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list