From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBVdQ-0005K1-Ab for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:33:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B77EE01D6; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8F5E01D6 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so3619208fga.14 for ; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:33:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:sender; bh=IkNEbtJj47vwfV8Vo0Z20NbKdn0Wzlci89U1GNa/quU=; b=GQwqcXL3WnqxKjB7COq08PIvbYR7feqZtCFNvCyKctk3d6QWPz31DTWrKOV9qu4UPFp22fpT4P4nAXw5eZE4rBjHbB+IO73TDEUZBE0A+o/g6NB5VQu/nayrntzNEIGP7jkbYKxK6Rkd9yKgNGW96i/TIUBGrqnvv6+R1cTTcHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id:sender; b=dXuUkJgBPNeny84RgEeTYC/8crcnm2Kuq1+tPM+QVpkNfgtmDIdiC8AGLk66bwOm+/wkv+SJS+BuMYZ3dbpBpiuwAFjv/MEok9pUHlrRpaA6gdEQkz0P83yGgd1+uxZZtQKg27vnuuWVtx21kBDlfpqF+35C2qfNMtBKvYOgOXs= Received: by 10.82.145.7 with SMTP id s7mr33455644bud.7.1199626429424; Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoebe.lan ( [212.76.57.12]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5sm57378027mue.2.2008.01.06.05.33.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:33:43 -0800 (PST) From: Piotr =?utf-8?q?Jaroszy=C5=84ski?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 14:33:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080101103002.083C4652C4@smtp.gentoo.org> <20080106024650.419eb2b2@snowcone> <4780C3BD.4010903@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4780C3BD.4010903@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200801061433.35278.peper@gentoo.org> Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UGlvdHIgSmFyb3N6ecWEc2tp?= X-Archives-Salt: 2afc543e-d696-4751-a1d1-e7a19a6d3cd0 X-Archives-Hash: f69e3e8b00082d60b1ce11fbd3d9fcf4 On Sunday 06 of January 2008 13:04:13 Luca Barbato wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:19:10 +0100 > > > > Luca Barbato wrote: > >> PS: has anybody checked how viable is now qemu-system ? > > > > Testing on qemu isn't anything like testing on real hardware. It's not > > a reliable or useful way of doing arch work. > > We ALL know that the right way is to build on the target hw, test on the > hw and do that in a TIMELY manner. > > Now, since seems that certain arches do not have enough hw or people > which are the workaround to have stuff tested to a minimum in time? > > - emulate such hardware if you don't own it > - use cross-distcc if you have the hardware but takes ages to build or > just requires too much power. > - use qemu-system or qemu-softmmu if you don't have access to the hw. Might as well toss a coin or check the phase of the moon... =2D-=20 Best Regards, Piotr Jaroszy=C5=84ski -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list