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From: Thomas de Grenier de Latour <degrenier@easyconnect.fr>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:46:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071220064644.60aa9572@eusebe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071219103208.1a077a96@blueyonder.co.uk>

On 2007/12/19, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:12:24 +0100
> Thomas de Grenier de Latour <degrenier@easyconnect.fr> wrote:
> > You're done as long as ebuilds are written in bash.
> 
> Not even that. What if people decide that rather than writing
> EAPI="blah", "eapi blah" is cleaner? 

Yeah, and file names suffixes won't work anymore as soon as it has 
arbitrarily been decided that prefixes should be used instead, or that
EAPI must disappear because using explicit sets of named features is
better than using names of some particular sets. That rules only holds
as long as they don't change is not an argument, but a truism.

> What if metadata is moved out of the ebuild, as some people started
> doing years ago?

Which metadata's, the ones from the file contents or the ones from the
file name?

Seriously, i still don't see the start of a rational argument in
your objections to an in-contents alternative.
Which lets the subjective disagreement (you prefering to keep bash
syntax unrestricted at the price of encumbered files names, and me
prefering to restrict it on one particular line for keeping clean
"name-version.fixed-extension" files names), for which argumentation
is hopeless too.

-- 
TGL.
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list



  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-20  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 299+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-17 22:20 [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-17 23:40 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-17 23:52   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  0:10 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18  0:18   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  0:30     ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18  0:39       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  9:36         ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18 10:03           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 20:38             ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18 23:59               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 14:18                 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 20:27                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  0:36     ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-18  0:43       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  1:05         ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18  1:14           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  1:46             ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 15:16               ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-18  1:01       ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-18 21:08         ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-18 21:32           ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 21:41             ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-19  0:09           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19  7:12             ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-19 10:32               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  5:46                 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour [this message]
2007-12-20  5:53                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 13:08                     ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-20 15:57                       ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-21  0:34                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:43                           ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 13:59                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  1:53                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-22  6:35                                 ` Steve Long
2007-12-22  7:12                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  9:43                                     ` Duncan
2007-12-22 10:05                                   ` Duncan
2007-12-23 21:01                                     ` Steve Long
2007-12-24  8:31                                       ` Duncan
2007-12-21 14:01                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Anderson
2007-12-18 17:05       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-18 17:21         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 10:26           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-19 10:29             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 11:05               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-19 11:16                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  0:07                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20  3:50                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 12:48                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20 13:06                         ` Richard Brown
2007-12-20 13:12                         ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 13:18                           ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-21  0:46                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:31                           ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 18:52                             ` Petteri Räty
2007-12-22  0:59                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22  7:25                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  8:55                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  9:07                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:01                                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:44                                     ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 15:12                                       ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-22 17:26                                         ` Zhang Le
2007-12-23  4:46                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 17:32                                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20  8:44                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-20 18:27                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21  0:32                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]                       ` <476B29A0.8090404@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21  3:04                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:43                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20 18:45                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  0:49                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:14                       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  2:23                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]                           ` <476B2A54.8030606@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21  2:56                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:51                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:59                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:20                                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:26                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  8:49                                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  9:08                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:05                                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-24  1:22                                           ` Luca Barbato
     [not found]                           ` <476B2884.1020700@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21  2:57                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:29                       ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 13:41                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 20:03                 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-19 23:59                   ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20  0:06                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  1:28                       ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20  3:54                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  9:43                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-20  9:57                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 14:08                               ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20 18:23                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20 13:56                           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: " Richard Freeman
2007-12-21  0:50                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  7:17     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18  7:29       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 21:30         ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-18 13:57       ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 14:24         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-18 17:37           ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18 17:53             ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-18 18:20               ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 19:41                 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20  8:22                 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2007-12-18 17:56             ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-18 19:45               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-18 19:59                 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 14:27                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 14:44                     ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-19 15:17                       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 15:40                         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 16:03                           ` Jim Ramsay
2007-12-19 16:50                             ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-20  9:05                               ` Duncan
2007-12-18 20:11                 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 23:50                   ` Duncan
2007-12-19  0:06                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19  9:28                       ` Duncan
2007-12-18 18:26             ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 18:51               ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18 20:08                 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 20:27                   ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18  4:41 ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18  4:46   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  5:27     ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18  5:52       ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18  9:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-18 10:18   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 15:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Marius Mauch
2007-12-19  0:07   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 13:54     ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-19 14:37 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 15:00   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-19 15:15     ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 16:05   ` Jim Ramsay
2007-12-20 18:52     ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  0:51       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:59         ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:07           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  9:58             ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-21 10:01               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:29                 ` Rémi Cardona
2007-12-21 13:38                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-24 11:19                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-24 12:39                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  8:05               ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-20  0:38 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20  2:31   ` EAPI definition Was: " Luca Barbato
2007-12-20  4:02     ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20  6:52       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20  4:07     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  7:10       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 19:16         ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-27 22:26           ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 22:40             ` Doug Klima
2007-12-28  6:57               ` Sven Vermeulen
2007-12-28 12:03             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28 12:25               ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-28 12:28                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28 12:45                   ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-28 23:34                   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Duncan
2007-12-31 14:48                     ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-31 14:46               ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Marius Mauch
2007-12-31 15:09                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-01  4:50                   ` Marius Mauch
2008-01-01 15:42                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 10:37       ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 10:42         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 11:06           ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 11:12             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 13:54               ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-12-21  0:57                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:46                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  3:05                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:26                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:32                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:54                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:09                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:17                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:38                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:41                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:56                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:02                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:25                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 15:31                                 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22  8:47                                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  9:11                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  9:53                                       ` Simon Cooper
2007-12-22 10:02                                         ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 12:45                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 15:23                                           ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-23  5:03                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-23 13:54                                               ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-24  5:58                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28  5:43                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20 18:29               ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21 12:34                 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22  3:19                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-22  7:13                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 11:03                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-22 14:50                         ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22 17:13                           ` Duncan
2007-12-24  1:39                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2007-12-22  7:00                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-22  8:09                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  8:11                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  8:58                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:53                         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 17:14                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 18:43                             ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 19:47                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 14:16                     ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-20 13:02             ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20 15:20               ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 16:08                 ` Rémi Cardona
2007-12-20 16:22                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 17:56                     ` Doug Klima
2007-12-21 14:53                     ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-22  3:21                       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 19:48                     ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-27 20:28                       ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-27 20:36                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 16:14               ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 21:33                 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-21  0:54                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:17                     ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  2:26                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:41                         ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  2:53                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:41                           ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22  1:19                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22  3:24                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2007-12-22  7:14                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-23  2:05                                 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-22  9:01                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  9:12                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  9:37                                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 12:48                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:34                         ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:36                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:03                             ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:06                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:27                                 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:32                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:09                                     ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:36                                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:39                                         ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 17:58                                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:46                         ` Josh Saddler
2007-12-21  4:53                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  6:24                             ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  6:34                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 10:18                                 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21 10:27                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:45                           ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-21 15:40                   ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-21 16:37                     ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-22  7:15                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:35                 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 19:01     ` EAPI definition Was: " Zhang Le
2007-12-20 19:30       ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-20 20:27         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Markus Ullmann
2007-12-20 22:46           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-21  3:23         ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:28           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:15             ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:19               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  0:23               ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Duncan
2007-12-21 15:47       ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22  9:49         ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 12:43           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 18:06             ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20  8:20   ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-12-20  8:29   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  9:19     ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20  9:25       ` Petteri Räty
2007-12-20 19:21         ` Josh Saddler
2007-12-20  9:43       ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-20 10:09         ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 10:26           ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 20:06             ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 10:30           ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-20 12:48           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20  9:55       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-27 20:15         ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-20 13:36   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 12:50 ` [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI inside ebuild filename (.EAPI-ebuild of different?) Peter Volkov
2007-12-31 14:38   ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-22  1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 55] EAPI subdirectories instead of file name suffixes Petteri Räty
2007-12-22  2:26   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22  6:46     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22  9:50     ` [gentoo-dev] " Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 15:29       ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22  7:09   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 11:59     ` Fernando J. Pereda

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