From: Thomas de Grenier de Latour <degrenier@easyconnect.fr>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:30:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071218223031.0dd51d1c@eusebe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071218072911.49fa1f3f@blueyonder.co.uk>
On 2007/12/18, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Well, users shouldn't really be doing anything with .ebuild files...
As a user, i often end reading part of some ebuilds to get a clue about
what the generic "foo" USE flag does in a particular package ("qgrep -A3
-B2 -Nx '\<foo\>' cat/pkg-ver" or alike).
> Or if by users you mean developers, I'd say it's considerably less
> inconvenient than having to remember arbitrary syntax restrictions...
"EAPI=foo must come first" is only one restriction, not several.
It's really easy enough to remember, and devs are more or less about to
conform to it anyway (since EAPI must come prior to "inherits", and
it's in skel.ebuild, etc.). It's also easy for package managers to
remind it as soon a dev tries to do anything with an offending ebuild
he has just written.
So please don't make it sound overly complicated when it's not.
You call my proposal a "nasty hack", but seriously, GLEP55's way of
putting one particular metadata in the file name rather than the file
contents whereas it's not discriminating for atoms (the reason you need
to forbid "foo-1.ebuild-blah" and "foo-1.ebuild-booh" existing in the
same dir) is at least as ugly (well, at least it's debatable).
And yes, you can answer that there are already such rules in
application, like "foo-1-r0.ebuild" not being allowed together with
"foo-1.ebuild", but my answer would be that's it's not a reason to make
things worst. In my ideal world, there shouldn't exists several
equal versions with different syntaxes(-r0 would not exists, _p would
be less than _p0, etc.), and a versionned atom should only correspond to
one single possible file name.
--
TGL.
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2007-12-17 22:20 [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-17 23:40 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-17 23:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 0:10 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 0:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 0:30 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 0:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 9:36 ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18 10:03 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 20:38 ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18 23:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 14:18 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 20:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 0:36 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-18 0:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 1:05 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 1:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 1:46 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 15:16 ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-18 1:01 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-18 21:08 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-18 21:32 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 21:41 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-19 0:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 7:12 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-19 10:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 5:46 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-20 5:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 13:08 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-20 15:57 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-21 0:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:43 ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 13:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 1:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-22 6:35 ` Steve Long
2007-12-22 7:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 9:43 ` Duncan
2007-12-22 10:05 ` Duncan
2007-12-23 21:01 ` Steve Long
2007-12-24 8:31 ` Duncan
2007-12-21 14:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Anderson
2007-12-18 17:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-18 17:21 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 10:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-19 10:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 11:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-19 11:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 0:07 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20 3:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 12:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20 13:06 ` Richard Brown
2007-12-20 13:12 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 13:18 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-21 0:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:31 ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 18:52 ` Petteri Räty
2007-12-22 0:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22 7:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 8:55 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 9:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:01 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:44 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 15:12 ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-22 17:26 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-23 4:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 17:32 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20 8:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-20 18:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21 0:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
[not found] ` <476B29A0.8090404@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21 3:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 3:43 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20 18:45 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 0:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 2:14 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21 2:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
[not found] ` <476B2A54.8030606@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21 2:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 3:51 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 3:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 4:20 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 4:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 8:49 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 9:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:05 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-24 1:22 ` Luca Barbato
[not found] ` <476B2884.1020700@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21 2:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:29 ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 13:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 20:03 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-19 23:59 ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20 0:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 1:28 ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20 3:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 9:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-20 9:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 14:08 ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20 18:23 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20 13:56 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: " Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 0:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 7:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18 7:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 21:30 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour [this message]
2007-12-18 13:57 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 14:24 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-18 17:37 ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18 17:53 ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-18 18:20 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 19:41 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20 8:22 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2007-12-18 17:56 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-18 19:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-18 19:59 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 14:27 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 14:44 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-19 15:17 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 15:40 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 16:03 ` Jim Ramsay
2007-12-19 16:50 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-20 9:05 ` Duncan
2007-12-18 20:11 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 23:50 ` Duncan
2007-12-19 0:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 9:28 ` Duncan
2007-12-18 18:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 18:51 ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18 20:08 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 20:27 ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18 4:41 ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18 4:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 5:27 ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18 5:52 ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18 9:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-18 10:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 15:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Marius Mauch
2007-12-19 0:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 13:54 ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-19 14:37 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 15:00 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-19 15:15 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 16:05 ` Jim Ramsay
2007-12-20 18:52 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 0:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 2:59 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 3:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 9:58 ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-21 10:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:29 ` Rémi Cardona
2007-12-21 13:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-24 11:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-24 12:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 8:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-20 0:38 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 2:31 ` EAPI definition Was: " Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 4:02 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 6:52 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 4:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 7:10 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 19:16 ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-27 22:26 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 22:40 ` Doug Klima
2007-12-28 6:57 ` Sven Vermeulen
2007-12-28 12:03 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28 12:25 ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-28 12:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28 12:45 ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-28 23:34 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Duncan
2007-12-31 14:48 ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-31 14:46 ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Marius Mauch
2007-12-31 15:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-01 4:50 ` Marius Mauch
2008-01-01 15:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 10:37 ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 10:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 11:06 ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 11:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 13:54 ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-12-21 0:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 2:46 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21 3:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 3:26 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 3:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 3:54 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 3:09 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 3:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 3:38 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 3:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 3:56 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 4:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 4:25 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 15:31 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22 8:47 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 9:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 9:53 ` Simon Cooper
2007-12-22 10:02 ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 12:45 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 15:23 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-23 5:03 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-23 13:54 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-24 5:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28 5:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20 18:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21 12:34 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22 3:19 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-22 7:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 11:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-22 14:50 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22 17:13 ` Duncan
2007-12-24 1:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2007-12-22 7:00 ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-22 8:09 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 8:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 8:58 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:53 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 17:14 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 18:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 19:47 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 14:16 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-20 13:02 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20 15:20 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 16:08 ` Rémi Cardona
2007-12-20 16:22 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 17:56 ` Doug Klima
2007-12-21 14:53 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-22 3:21 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 19:48 ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-27 20:28 ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-27 20:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 16:14 ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 21:33 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-21 0:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 2:17 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21 2:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 2:41 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21 2:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:41 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22 1:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22 3:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2007-12-22 7:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-23 2:05 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-22 9:01 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 9:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 9:37 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 12:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 3:34 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 3:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 4:03 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 4:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 4:27 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 4:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:09 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:36 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:39 ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 17:58 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 4:46 ` Josh Saddler
2007-12-21 4:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 6:24 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21 6:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 10:18 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21 10:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:45 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-21 15:40 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-21 16:37 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-22 7:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:35 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 19:01 ` EAPI definition Was: " Zhang Le
2007-12-20 19:30 ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-20 20:27 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Markus Ullmann
2007-12-20 22:46 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-21 3:23 ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21 3:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 4:15 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 4:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 0:23 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Duncan
2007-12-21 15:47 ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22 9:49 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 12:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 18:06 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20 8:20 ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-12-20 8:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 9:19 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 9:25 ` Petteri Räty
2007-12-20 19:21 ` Josh Saddler
2007-12-20 9:43 ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-20 10:09 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 10:26 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 20:06 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 10:30 ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-20 12:48 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20 9:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-27 20:15 ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-20 13:36 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 12:50 ` [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI inside ebuild filename (.EAPI-ebuild of different?) Peter Volkov
2007-12-31 14:38 ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-22 1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 55] EAPI subdirectories instead of file name suffixes Petteri Räty
2007-12-22 2:26 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22 6:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22 9:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 15:29 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22 7:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 11:59 ` Fernando J. Pereda
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