From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Iwhch-0000P2-8n for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:19:55 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lAQHJ2gO017068; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:19:02 GMT Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lAQHH3KK014489 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:17:03 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2DA8D307 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:17:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at ferdyx.org Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno.ferdyx.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cGisgqCcS9qz for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:17:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from posidon.ferdyx.org (posidon.ferdyx.org [192.168.0.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B5A8D305 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:17:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by posidon.ferdyx.org (nbSMTP-1.01-cvs) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) ferdy@gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:17:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:16:59 +0100 From: "Fernando J. Pereda" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE flags documentation Message-ID: <20071126171659.GA4425@ferdyx.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20071124130354.GA8295@gentoo.org> <474ACB51.1020806@gentoo.org> <200711261517.52774@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: 3828e9c9-5ff4-4e3f-ba70-71b5583b75e1 X-Archives-Hash: 98fb00f7a3efb2c09e602b6a5d63cb67 --5mCyUwZo2JvN/JJP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [ I'm answering diego's mail here because I didn't get a copy of it through gentoo-dev, I guess the list missed me or my spam filter killed it ] On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 07:10:40AM -0800, Alec Warner wrote: > On 11/26/07, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten=F2 wrote: > > CCing council so that the other members can express their feeling about= this; > > basically the only people I actually care about getting the feeling abo= ut > > this at all. So you do not care about the rest of the dev community... great. > > Oh wait, everybody who contacted _me_ thinks it's a great idea, or near= ly > > everybody. The difference is that people who contacted me did so in the= blog, > > so you can read the comments at [1]. Yes I know they don't really count= much, > > but counts more of your "everybody who contacted me/us" to me, consider= ing I > > see only Antarus agreeing with you. Your proposal is no better just because people agree with you. Moreover, it doesn't even address some of the concerns that were raised when it was first brought up. *Brillant*. > > On the proper matter, whether a GLEP is needed or not, well, I already = said > > before I think the GLEP process is totally broken, and I don't think th= at > > waiting for months to get the GLEP approved would help users at all. Fo= r what > > it's worth, there is already a GLEP on metadata extension, GLEP 5.. yes= FIVE. > > Status: deferred. > > > > I think a markup change is not a problem of GLEPs, I don't think a lot = of > > stuff that gone into GLEP process should have, and should just have been > > realised. This means that anobody who thinks that the 'put your favourite rule here' rule is broken is hereby allowed to break it. Right? > > And as for Alec's "20 minutes" comment, I would like to remind him that= we > > have a lot of people getting obnoxious when you make even a spelling mi= stake, > > so for a non-native English speaker like I am, the 20 minutes figure is > > totally wrong. And this is also my reason not to write GLEPs ever in my= life, > > I don't want to spend two weeks just to get the spelling right. That's a > > waste of my time, and as I'm not devoting my whole life to Gentoo, it e= nds up > > hurting users again. And not caring about the whole development and user community by bypassing its rules hurts all of us even more. > > At any rate, if you have any comment regarding the way some dev act, I'd > > suggest you, mostly for good life of both you and the dev involved, to = ask > > him BEFORE crapping on him in public. The announcement thing you referr= ed to, > > as Doug explained, was just a time problem, and as we're all volunteer,= I > > don't think Doug was forced to find the time to fix the stuff. You are the only one that crapped yourself in public with this completely uncalled for response. You acted without asking the community so if people raise concerns about how you acted, just face it. Don't play the "contact me before saying I fucked up in public" thing. - ferdy --=20 Fernando J. 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