From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IqoBl-0005qu-Rn for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:07:46 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lAAB6rdD000763; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:06:53 GMT Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (smtp1-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.27]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lAAB4mVV030687 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:04:48 GMT Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCC21AB30A for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:04:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from toz.strangled.net (toz.strangled.net [82.232.126.136]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF551AB304 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:04:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:04:57 +0100 From: Alexis Ballier To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag transition: tetex and latex Message-ID: <20071110120457.12f958f4@toz.strangled.net> In-Reply-To: <19F48F64-7A56-4278-9C9B-6B3F481F7194@gentoo.org> References: <1194440992.2705.96.camel@liasis.inforead.com> <19F48F64-7A56-4278-9C9B-6B3F481F7194@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/ZNciuixQSmluAnSx4JA=zs/"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 217921b9-ce6f-4842-9f15-120dd2b5609c X-Archives-Hash: 0499c143f5cf52469938e33e1a336a17 --Sig_/ZNciuixQSmluAnSx4JA=zs/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > > > > I don't think documentation using texinfo.tex (the documentation > > that comes in .texi files) uses latex --- I believe that > > texinfo.tex uses just plain tex. actually you got a point; but let me show how the boundary is small: take a texi file, process it with tex -> it works. remove the \input texinfo at the beginning -> fails run:=20 $ tex -ini -jobname=3Dtexinfo -progname=3Dtexinfo texinfo.ini that will give you: texinfo.fmt and texinfo.log in the current directory run as root: # ln -s tex /usr/bin/texinfo then run texinfo on your .texi file where you have removed the \input (and in the same directory where you had texinfo.fmt) -> it works funny heh ? what is a format ? it's just : run tex on a file, dump the memory of the interpreter and write it to a file. what is latex ? bah it's just more or less the same thing: some tex macros and definitions, processed through a tex engine to get latex.fmt If you check it, the latex executable is just a symlink to the tex engine used by your distribution ;) Seeing that, should we call it tex, texi or texinfo ? is latex really latex or should we call it tex ? I don't have any answer to that, and I think we should have useflag names that refer to commonly used names for what they represent. If you tell me that .texi files are commonly referenced as tex stuff, then why not tex; but I'd call it texinfo. > Do we even provide plain tex via an ebuild or useflag? for the above reasons, we have tex ;) Regards, Alexis. --Sig_/ZNciuixQSmluAnSx4JA=zs/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHNZBZvFcC4BYPU0oRAvUTAJ9qK0ccOWEKvhar8WMDj9eedteJIQCfcCXX JKuR1JYfwlUc5z8X7dqCLkY= =Q3Rl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/ZNciuixQSmluAnSx4JA=zs/-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list