From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IGvhR-0001Zs-SK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:52:10 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l73BpDlD002342; Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:51:13 GMT Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l73BmYwa031177 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:48:35 GMT Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h30so1452930wxd for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-mailer:x-face:mime-version:content-type; b=qdHTCPfAtiJ5BtQ95e39UQr0m3yd+bEnmHtPeVJo6Usw2FDX3RH5rJswSemBei0Sn7UBdrnGVcgMJNbssvJ8rRMfn0WCRMnotICnxnsPKG2yQSt+5BicczazqT/D0nE417cuRDALOaPQno8xW++USfOF+MQFjt3geRkJWn6sbHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-mailer:x-face:mime-version:content-type; b=R0BRB/GP/NqDE0Be+EKMVmBypoulDQNtMtwUsqk4XDXIlwNksaO0KcrpObRF9kfY4MfetGThxC1ROzELFVfBgoBArvwEu7o1uQTA8SK4cUffmr3cGxwoeAGXD5E7hH3bEuLqmG6nnPEDR6IGFt5FJTLplKhYntZCDc9/sW3ISmQ= Received: by 10.90.79.6 with SMTP id c6mr2852644agb.1186141713921; Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azathoth.beerandrocks.net ( [66.25.185.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m75sm3099238wrm.2007.08.03.04.48.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Aug 2007 04:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 06:48:25 -0500 From: "Stephen P. Becker" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans Message-ID: <20070803064825.36eb92cc@azathoth.beerandrocks.net> In-Reply-To: <46B2A276.3040704@gentoo.org> References: <46AFC734.2000702@gentoo.org> <1185987262.8497.4.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <1186005617.27781.8.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> <200708021931.10425.vapier@gentoo.org> <20070802165558.515ef814@localhost> <1186111148.32543.9.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> <46B2A276.3040704@gentoo.org> Organization: BeerandRocks X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: SZkgO{p^G't0]8U]p8b=DtT,_0Hz?S)hKCI\sEHZRAdrYo?=`'CDw8uu-Mpo(x;@%XjW]VR euvbMM4Iixr>@Wxy?~f]4@1uGNlXGT0!AC[b{1R>:@]U~bPf8(Jcg8C&H}<7dM!Q2p/C\tw4vUb{he PZ&oWm&Pr#hRGa*=ReoPd,mbd_X/-yCj\-Ya{7j7Dkg)5bA&1!c,~8V/7lBGlF?6;fBJ):7sjgT0\= Jre""/n'zX=E==KMA{k&pBLm,c*Y0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_fHIZDic=DgnaruSAX/lZiGT"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 6c767987-a1f1-47fd-8624-cf34deac74ff X-Archives-Hash: 33009deb232420ca7580b3d84f7334c1 --Sig_fHIZDic=DgnaruSAX/lZiGT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:35:18 -0700 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 16:55 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > >> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:31:09 -0400 > >> Mike Frysinger wrote: > >>> if the driver blows dead goats and the vendor isnt willing to help > >>> and no Gentoo dev wants to touch it, what other solution is > >>> there ? > >> There's an open-source driver for the r5xx stuff called the avivo > >> driver [1]. > >> > >> 1. > >> http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=3Davivo/xf86-video-avivo.git;a=3Dsumm= ary > >=20 > > Still leaves a gap, since the open source radeon driver is not fully > > supporting R3xx to my knowledge much less r4xx. >=20 > Update your knowledge, the normal radeon driver works nice for both. > =3D) I'm not sure I would 100% agree with that. Yeah, it works for most things, but 2D definitely could use some speed improvements (still no Render acceleration), and any recent 3d app that needs some serious horsepower (e.g. doom3) is pretty much useless. In fact, last time I tried to start doom3 using the open source driver, it flat out refused to start. Things like ut2003 and ut2004 are also pretty much unplayable. I will say that this is still a better situation than the closed drivers, which instantly hard lock my computer the first time I exit X after the initial startup. -Steve --Sig_fHIZDic=DgnaruSAX/lZiGT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGsxYPHyvOE7OTyFYRAkCyAKDCXyycdkpXHFn4Xfz2XPB9XkxwuwCgye1H 9uvHysSf7XWh8ZtsCaaVaRY= =Kc8/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_fHIZDic=DgnaruSAX/lZiGT-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list