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From: Carsten Lohrke <carlo@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New PDEPEND behaviour.
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:17:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707251717.24476.carlo@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070725142509.GB17517@seldon>

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On Mittwoch, 25. Juli 2007, Brian Harring wrote:
> I suggest you in the future check out what actually was changed, and
> do some testing- both the original poster, and yourself are missing
> what is occuring here

Uh, thanks, I never was fond of reading the code of Portage, so I took Piotr's 
point as given.

> Note I said 'shift'.  It tries to place it earlier in the graph, while
> *still* maintaining the constraints of kdnssd-avahi- namely the
> kdelibs dependency.
>
> Via that dep, kdnssd-avahi *requires* kdelibs to be installed first,
> and portage honors that- it just now tries to get kdnssd-avahi merged
> as soon as possible after kdelibs due to their PDEPEND relationship
> (try it if in doubt, it lineralizes it properly).
>
> The cases where it doesn't, are when the constraints are already
> satisfied- kdelibs already is merged, basically.  There is a change in
> placement there, but considering the data involved, wouldn't label it
> a regression- same issue can, and does occur in multiple other ways.

That's fine.

> > The latter.
>
> Former.  The ebuild manpage is a bit loose in it's description of what
> PDEPEND does.

Well, I should point out where I come from. There is no need to install a pure 
runtime dependency before the ebuild pulling it in. If pure runtime 
dependencies would be handled this way, there would be no need for PDEPEND at 
all. I consider the current way Portage handles pure runtime dependencies 
(causing the need for the artificial PDEPEND in the first place) as 
conceptually broken.


Carsten

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-25 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-25 12:08 [gentoo-dev] New PDEPEND behaviour Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-07-25 12:32 ` Brian Harring
2007-07-25 12:46 ` Doug Goldstein
2007-07-25 14:15   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-25 14:24     ` Doug Goldstein
2007-07-25 14:32       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-25 12:51 ` Carsten Lohrke
2007-07-25 14:17   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-25 14:28     ` Doug Goldstein
2007-07-25 14:41       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-25 14:25   ` Brian Harring
2007-07-25 15:17     ` Carsten Lohrke [this message]
2007-07-25 15:32       ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-07-25 17:31         ` Carsten Lohrke
2007-07-25 14:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-25 15:18   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-07-25 14:18 ` Doug Goldstein
2007-07-25 14:31   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-25 15:07   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-07-25 14:31 ` Joe Peterson

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