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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@ciaranm.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:59:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070719215933.014b21cd@snowflake> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <469FCD7A.1090506@bellsouth.net>

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:45:46 -0500
Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Any user who will see and respond to a question is unrepresentative
> > of the user base in general.
> 
> So if ten users reply then, are all ten individually wrong too?

Not my point. My point is that most Gentoo users would either not see
the question or not respond. Those that both see the question and take
time to respond are highly atypical.

> I wish ALL users would vote in a poll on the forums

That wouldn't tell you what all users want though. It would tell you
what forum users who take the time to respond to a poll want. Again,
not a representative sample. And that's the issue at hand -- Gentoo has
an extremely hard time delivering information to most users. Getting
information back is even trickier. The set of people who respond is
heavily skewed towards better-informed users who have time to seek out
and participate in that kind of questioning.

> as to what we the users want and what direction we want Gentoo to go
> in.

I want guaranteed total stability, instantly available updates,
guaranteed backwards compatibility, the ability to install any package
from source using my configuration of choice in under fifteen seconds
and a herd of nubile bisexual redheads. Can Gentoo deliver that?

> It's no different than elections here in the US, people gripe but
> most of the gripers don't vote.

Do you really think it would make any difference if they did? All it
would do is lend credibility to the process, and provide people with
the argument "well you voted so you agree to accept the decision of
the majority".

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-19 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-19  4:31 [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols Eric Polino
2007-07-19  4:47 ` Caleb Cushing
2007-07-19  4:56   ` Eric Polino
2007-07-19  8:09 ` Luca Barbato
2007-07-19 10:04   ` Petteri Räty
2007-07-19 10:19     ` Jakub Moc
2007-07-19 10:22       ` Petteri Räty
2007-07-19 11:24       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-19 11:34         ` Petteri Räty
2007-07-19 16:53       ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-19 17:08         ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2007-07-19 18:58           ` Charlie Shepherd
2007-07-19 19:02           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-19 21:39             ` Eric Polino
2007-07-19 22:02               ` Jim Ramsay
2007-07-19 22:22                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-19 23:57                   ` Olivier Crête
2007-07-20 21:49                     ` Olivier Crête
2007-07-20 16:10       ` joshua jackson
2007-07-19 16:33         ` Improving developer/user communication (was Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols) Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2007-07-19 19:36           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was " Steve Long
2007-07-19 20:02             ` George Prowse
2007-07-19 20:25               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-19 20:41                 ` George Prowse
2007-07-19 20:45                 ` Dale
2007-07-19 20:58                   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-19 20:59                   ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2007-07-19 21:13                     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols) Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-19 21:22                     ` George Prowse
2007-07-19 21:31                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-19 21:43                         ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-07-19 21:59                         ` George Prowse
2007-07-19 22:03                           ` Mike Doty
2007-07-19 22:11                             ` George Prowse
2007-07-19 22:16                               ` Roy Marples
2007-07-20 13:49                                 ` Richard Freeman
2007-07-19 21:51                       ` Dale
2007-07-19 22:18                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-20 16:54                       ` Thomas Scharl
2007-07-20 17:31                         ` George Prowse
2007-07-20 21:48                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-20 21:56                           ` [gentoo-dev] Stats Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-20 22:10                             ` Robert Buchholz
2007-07-20 22:29                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-20 23:53                               ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-20 22:07                           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols) Robert Buchholz
2007-07-20 22:08                           ` Thomas Scharl
2007-07-19 20:39             ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-07-19 21:03               ` Robert Buchholz
2007-07-19 21:42           ` Improving developer/user communication (was Re: [gentoo-dev] " Eric Polino
2007-07-19 22:11             ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was " Steve Long
2007-07-20  0:52         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols Duncan
2007-07-20  1:52           ` Eric Polino
2007-07-20  3:22             ` Duncan
2007-07-20  4:02               ` Eric Polino
2007-07-20  5:10                 ` Duncan
2007-07-20 11:49                 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-20 13:49                   ` Eric Polino
2007-07-20 21:40                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-20 21:57                   ` Olivier Crête
2007-07-20 22:27                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-20  2:22           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-20 14:11           ` fire-eyes
2007-07-20 17:03             ` Jim Ramsay
2007-07-20 18:20               ` Eric Polino
2007-07-20 18:49                 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-20 19:25                   ` Eric Polino
2007-07-23 11:38 ` Christian Faulhammer
2007-07-23 13:07   ` Dawid Węgliński
2007-07-23 13:18     ` Jonathan Adamczewski
2007-07-24 15:23   ` Stratos Psomadakis
2007-07-24 15:50     ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)

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