From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IAr5d-0001jU-QK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:44:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6HHgohg029797; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:42:50 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6HHebQV027020 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:40:38 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC6B64A71 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:40:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: 0.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.502 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.581, BAYES_50=0.001, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL=1.946, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.001] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JzOzf0bKwdLY for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.genone.homeip.net (dslc-082-082-172-175.pools.arcor-ip.net [82.82.172.175]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D225653A7 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.genone.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 460) id CB9A8281DC; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:38:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sheridan (unknown [192.168.0.40]) by mail.genone.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 18738280E5; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:38:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:38:47 +0200 From: Marius Mauch To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] joining the Software Freedom Conservancy (was: Nominations open for the 2007/08 Trustees) Message-Id: <20070717193847.c6c3428f.genone@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20070717150823.GD13456@feynman.corp.halliburton.com> References: <1184349298.8347.42.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <1184619644.15799.37.camel@hangover.linbsd.net> <20070717150823.GD13456@feynman.corp.halliburton.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i686-pc-mingw32) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 541c4155-e6c1-4921-a795-b9af1853b19a X-Archives-Hash: 0415cff5806dbb9583c4b5c33bee7774 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:08:23 -0500 Grant Goodyear wrote: > Ned Ludd wrote: [Mon Jul 16 2007, 04:00:44PM CDT] > > Anyway point I'm trying to make here is that I think we might be > > better off using a 3rd party as our foundation. IE people who have > > the experience/motivation and time to focus on such things > > that a foundation should be. > > > > Anyway. I'd like to nominate nobody in-house. > > Yeah, I tend to agree. Not-so-coincidentally, Gentoo's been invited > to join the Software Freedom Conservancy, which would provide just > the sort of 3rd-party management that you're suggesting. I put a > write-up on my blog detailing what we know so far: > > http://www.grantgoodyear.org/g2blog/gentoo/20070717-sflc.html While I think this would be an excellent move, there are a few topics that concern me a bit: 1) just to be sure, did someone check the transfer agreement between the Foundation and the old Gentoo, Inc for potential problems? 2) what would this mean for our copyright situation? In detail: a) who would (legally) own the copyright? b) what would (in theory) be involved if we'd want to enforce/change the license? c) if the copyright were owned by the Conservancy, would we have to change our copyright headers (in existing and/or new files)? 3) the time it takes to process a funding request worries me a little bit as well, but then I've never had to deal with that so I'll trust people who have more experience with that. 2c) is the thing that concernes me the most, changing all of our copyright notices would be a huge pain. Btw, you should probably make a new topic for that so people actually notice it. Marius -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list