From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IAomu-0000J4-BP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:16:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6HFFXr9027552; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:15:33 GMT Received: from HOUMAIL004.halliburton.com (houmail004.halliburton.com [34.254.16.16]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6HFDTE9025071; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:13:29 GMT Received: from HOUEXGR001.corp.halliburton.com (houexgr001.corp.halliburton.com [34.224.35.122]) by HOUMAIL004.halliburton.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l6HFGODe016040; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:19:21 -0500 Received: from HOUEXCH079.corp.halliburton.com ([34.224.34.119]) by HOUEXGR001.corp.halliburton.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6747); Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:12:42 -0500 Received: from localhost ([34.224.38.205]) by HOUEXCH079.corp.halliburton.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:12:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:08:23 -0500 From: Grant Goodyear To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] Nominations open for the 2007/08 Trustees Message-ID: <20070717150823.GD13456@feynman.corp.halliburton.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org References: <1184349298.8347.42.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <1184619644.15799.37.camel@hangover.linbsd.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZmUaFz6apKcXQszQ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1184619644.15799.37.camel@hangover.linbsd.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2007 15:12:42.0457 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC088C90:01C7C884] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5502:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2007-07-17_05:2007-07-17,2007-07-17,2007-07-17 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0707090000 definitions=main-0707170044 X-Archives-Salt: 507793da-3a80-4181-85c3-5cbdc1cd0dfc X-Archives-Hash: 2e77fafa03415af01d01f6a8322b090a --ZmUaFz6apKcXQszQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ned Ludd wrote: [Mon Jul 16 2007, 04:00:44PM CDT] > Long term I worry about the foundation. No offense to anybody. I'm sure= =20 > I don't know or understand the problems you/we have encountered along > the way. But I think we need to face it 99.9% of our devs are not > suited to run a foundation such as this. That's not a bad thing in any > such way. Most of us came to this project cuz we are geeks doing geeky > things is what we do best..=20 > I'm sure some of you get roped into doing the foundation because > you truly love Gentoo and want to see things be taken care of. However > to be frank. I don't think I've seen a single substantial thing > accomplished sense cshields left Gentoo. Please don't take that the > wrong way. I know we are all busy people. Perhaps you guys have done > shitloads and I/we just don't know about it. Perhaps it's still the same > old story.. We are waiting on ABC banks. We can't re-incorp without=20 > XYZ first. Actually, we have a bank, paypal successfully talks to it, and=20 I believe that we're completely caught up w/ all of the various funding requests that we've received. You're point is still a good one,=20 however. > Anyway point I'm trying to make here is that I think we might be=20 > better off using a 3rd party as our foundation. IE people who have=20 > the experience/motivation and time to focus on such things=20 > that a foundation should be. >=20 > Anyway. I'd like to nominate nobody in-house. Yeah, I tend to agree. Not-so-coincidentally, Gentoo's been invited to join the Software Freedom Conservancy, which would provide just the sort of 3rd-party management that you're suggesting. I put a write-up on my blog detailing what we know so far: http://www.grantgoodyear.org/g2blog/gentoo/20070717-sflc.html I'm cross-posting to -dev, and suggesting that comments be sent=20 there as well, since most people don't read -nfp. If you think this is a good idea, a bad idea, or you just want to know more, now's the time to express your opinion. -g2boojum- --=20 Grant Goodyear=09 Gentoo Developer g2boojum@gentoo.org http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 --ZmUaFz6apKcXQszQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGnNtnptxxUuD2W3YRAgdzAJoDySM/4pZ3QONLzOMWC00V8Icp9gCdEUta 7i3ypw66mR+j0DdsyY2LDlc= =2jU8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZmUaFz6apKcXQszQ-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list