From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I9PBZ-0006bv-FF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:44:09 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6DHfl8J025720; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:41:47 GMT Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6DHbw97019553 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:37:58 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4C98D30C for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:31:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24026-03 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:31:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snowflake (82-41-57-20.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [82.41.57.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D6F8D3F8 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:31:35 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:37:21 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes Message-ID: <20070713183721.29764abd@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <1184347521.8347.24.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184308886.9892.48.camel@tuxhugs> <1184347521.8347.24.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.2 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_77YaFHXSWyG/+8xFeIyJt6/"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ferdyx.org X-Archives-Salt: fff4eb60-0973-4b99-934e-d9ace439041a X-Archives-Hash: 63585f9f08470a0b068a1735691069de --Sig_77YaFHXSWyG/+8xFeIyJt6/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:25:21 -0700 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Seriously, how about instead of these childish "if this happens, I'm > taking my toys and going home" attitudes, you instead try to determine > what you can do to improve a situation you see as bad for Gentoo with > one you see as positive. I've grown sick of all this talk and would > really like to see some action from the peanut gallery. I know this > might be too much to ask from the armchair Council, but one can dream, > can't they? Perhaps the Council should stop going out of their way to screw around with people when they do do something then. They could, for example, stop trying to impose arbitrary, meaningless changes to which version control system PMS uses (an issue which is of no technical relevance). Perhaps that might stop dissuading contributions from people who can't be bothered having to deal with silly political meddling from a Council which is supposed to be providing technical assistance... Similarly, they could help take care of all the silly arguments that are being foisted off against attempts to provide a decent, adaptable replacement for Gentoo's biggest stalling point. > What *does* impact us severely is the perception that we're not doing > anything about our problems. I would much rather do something and be > wrong than do nothing. Doing nothing is *guaranteed* to not solve > anything. Perhaps you should do something about something that really is a problem then, instead of wasting everyone's time on irrelevant issues and blatantly false copyright claims. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_77YaFHXSWyG/+8xFeIyJt6/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGl7hR96zL6DUtXhERAg4WAKDfIxRoc2M3iR3XYr5w1M/nE6Kq1gCg49Ge PMmi8G/UA5nj0G9T9yi4n1o= =vuAG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_77YaFHXSWyG/+8xFeIyJt6/-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list