From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@ciaranm.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:37:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070713183721.29764abd@snowflake> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1184347521.8347.24.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org>
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:25:21 -0700
Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Seriously, how about instead of these childish "if this happens, I'm
> taking my toys and going home" attitudes, you instead try to determine
> what you can do to improve a situation you see as bad for Gentoo with
> one you see as positive. I've grown sick of all this talk and would
> really like to see some action from the peanut gallery. I know this
> might be too much to ask from the armchair Council, but one can dream,
> can't they?
Perhaps the Council should stop going out of their way to screw around
with people when they do do something then. They could, for example,
stop trying to impose arbitrary, meaningless changes to which version
control system PMS uses (an issue which is of no technical relevance).
Perhaps that might stop dissuading contributions from people who can't
be bothered having to deal with silly political meddling from a Council
which is supposed to be providing technical assistance... Similarly,
they could help take care of all the silly arguments that are being
foisted off against attempts to provide a decent, adaptable replacement
for Gentoo's biggest stalling point.
> What *does* impact us severely is the perception that we're not doing
> anything about our problems. I would much rather do something and be
> wrong than do nothing. Doing nothing is *guaranteed* to not solve
> anything.
Perhaps you should do something about something that really is a
problem then, instead of wasting everyone's time on irrelevant issues
and blatantly false copyright claims.
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Ciaran McCreesh
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Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-12 20:24 [gentoo-dev] ML changes Mike Doty
2007-07-12 20:31 ` Olivier Crête
2007-07-13 1:54 ` Kumba
2007-07-12 20:31 ` Bryan Østergaard
2007-07-12 20:59 ` Dale
2007-07-12 21:02 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 22:11 ` Tom Wesley
2007-07-12 23:05 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 6:31 ` Andrew Cowie
2007-07-12 20:43 ` Jim Ramsay
2007-07-12 20:48 ` Mike Doty
2007-07-12 21:01 ` Josh Saddler
2007-07-12 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 20:54 ` Josh Sled
2007-07-12 20:55 ` expose
2007-07-12 21:43 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 22:02 ` expose
2007-07-12 21:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Tiziano Müller
2007-07-12 21:32 ` Luca Barbato
2007-07-12 23:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-12 21:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-12 21:37 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-12 21:43 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-12 22:03 ` Jeffrey Gardner
2007-07-12 22:10 ` Denis Dupeyron
[not found] ` <1184280935.29731.11.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com>
2007-07-12 23:43 ` Jeffrey Gardner
2007-07-12 22:21 ` Krzysiek Pawlik
2007-07-12 22:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 22:28 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-12 22:13 ` Michael Krelin
2007-07-12 22:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2007-07-12 23:57 ` Steve Long
2007-07-12 22:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-12 22:52 ` Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-12 23:17 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-15 7:14 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2007-07-13 0:17 ` Robert Buchholz
2007-07-13 0:56 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-14 2:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-13 7:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Togge
2007-07-12 22:46 ` Ned Ludd
2007-07-12 22:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Stefan Schweizer
2007-07-12 23:28 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-12 22:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Kelly
2007-07-12 23:26 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-07-13 0:50 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-13 1:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-13 5:11 ` Duncan
2007-07-17 11:20 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Ostrow
2007-07-13 1:52 ` Daniel Ostrow
2007-07-13 3:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-13 5:22 ` Duncan
2007-07-13 15:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-13 17:24 ` Joe Peterson
2007-07-15 7:14 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2007-07-13 1:59 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 2:30 ` Kevin Lacquement
2007-07-13 3:06 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 3:13 ` Kevin Lacquement
2007-07-13 4:06 ` Kumba
2007-07-13 6:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2007-07-13 17:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-17 18:14 ` Roy Bamford
2007-07-13 6:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Gordon
2007-07-13 6:49 ` Peter Gordon
2007-07-13 7:11 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-13 14:14 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 14:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-13 14:39 ` Roy Marples
2007-07-13 15:08 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 15:34 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-17 11:29 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 15:31 ` Vieri Di Paola
2007-07-13 18:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2007-07-13 17:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 18:28 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 15:39 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-13 17:41 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-14 3:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-13 15:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jim Ramsay
2007-07-13 18:53 ` Chris Scullard
2007-07-13 19:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 19:59 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-13 22:10 ` lnxg33k
2007-07-13 17:33 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-14 0:13 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-14 2:11 ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-07-14 3:34 ` Josh Saddler
2007-07-14 4:51 ` Kumba
2007-07-14 19:14 ` Ferris McCormick
2007-07-17 11:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-07-13 17:25 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-13 17:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2007-07-13 18:04 ` darren kirby
2007-07-13 18:44 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-13 18:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-13 19:04 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-14 10:20 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-14 17:25 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-15 7:54 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-15 11:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-13 12:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-07-13 13:21 ` Grant Goodyear
2007-07-13 19:46 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? (was: ML changes) Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-13 22:00 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-07-13 23:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? Luca Barbato
2007-07-13 23:54 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? (was: ML changes) Jeroen Roovers
2007-07-14 1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? Ken
2007-07-14 5:36 ` Alin Năstac
2007-07-14 16:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2007-07-14 17:43 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-14 20:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-14 21:07 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-07-15 3:54 ` [gentoo-dev] ML changes Daniel Drake
2007-07-15 10:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-15 23:13 ` Kumba
2007-07-16 9:03 ` Duncan
2007-07-16 16:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-17 9:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-15 21:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthias Langer
2007-07-15 22:21 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 3:14 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-16 22:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-16 22:30 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 23:09 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-17 0:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-17 1:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chrissy Fullam
2007-07-17 1:34 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 23:13 ` Will Briggs
2007-07-16 6:18 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 11:45 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 12:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-07-16 12:42 ` Michael Cummings
2007-07-16 13:15 ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-16 13:47 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 15:00 ` Richard Freeman
2007-07-16 17:43 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 13:46 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-16 16:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 17:21 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-07-16 12:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Krelin
2007-07-16 22:17 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-16 23:37 ` Michael Krelin
2007-07-16 22:11 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-16 23:27 ` George Prowse
2007-07-16 12:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 13:29 ` Alin Năstac
2007-07-16 17:45 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-16 17:49 ` Jakub Moc
2007-07-16 20:55 ` Thomas Tuttle
2007-07-16 22:15 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-17 0:15 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 18:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " George Prowse
2007-07-16 18:35 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-07-17 0:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 20:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Weller
2007-07-16 20:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-17 0:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-16 22:22 ` Torsten Veller
2007-07-16 22:27 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-07-17 7:33 ` Wernfried Haas
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2007-07-13 19:10 [gentoo-dev] " Christina Fullam
2007-07-14 21:03 Christina Fullam
2007-07-15 2:23 ` Dawid Węgliński
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