From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I9CJ7-0001i3-Em for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:59:06 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6D3w9KR032726; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:58:09 GMT Received: from mail.genone.homeip.net (dslc-082-082-180-090.pools.arcor-ip.net [82.82.180.90]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6D3uDKg030405 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:56:13 GMT Received: by mail.genone.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 460) id B0082281C3; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:55:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8-gr0-genone_0.7 (2007-02-13) on lyta.genone.homeip.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=7.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8-gr0-genone_0.7 Received: from sheridan (sheridan [192.168.0.40]) by mail.genone.homeip.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A65E42818E for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:55:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 05:55:26 +0200 From: Marius Mauch To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Watch out for license changes to GPL-3. Message-Id: <20070713055526.19a613d7.genone@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20070713045310.00190e19@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> References: <4690C4B8.4000407@gentoo.org> <200707121610.48499.vapier@gentoo.org> <20070712211659.2a1f1aa5@snowflake> <200707121706.06405.vapier@gentoo.org> <20070712221136.39fe2b7b@snowflake> <20070713045310.00190e19@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i686-pc-mingw32) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1d301ab2-688e-4e52-9dee-2ef68b86f012 X-Archives-Hash: c908c5276e16784ba5a475a8923999ce Add usual IANAL disclaimer here. All of what I say below is just a recall of what I remember from discussions that happened a few years ago. On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:53:10 +0200 Jeroen Roovers wrote: > To be exact, by submitting an ebuild, you actively surrender the > copyright to the ebuild to the Gentoo Foundation, formerly Gentoo > Technologies, Inc. [1], the original commit of skel.build (later > skel.ebuild) already made this very clear: Only if the ebuild actually includes our copyright header, and even then is probably questionable in legal terms. > I remember seeing a less subtle statement to this effect (that the > copyright to anything you submit to Gentoo's CVS is passed on to > the Gentoo Project) a long time ago, probably in the devrel/recruiters > documentation during my own recruitment. I think you're talking about the copyright assignment doc, which new devs were required to sign for some time (back when drobbins was still in charge) and send back to drobbins, but which was pulled because of serious flaws. Ever since the copyright assignment issue has been something the foundation/board of trustees should have take care of (one of the reasons we needed the lawyers), with no result so far. > Sadly, currently no document on www.gentoo.org explains the judicial > better than [3], which has this: > > "The bureaucracy we mention includes: > > [...] > > - juridical protection: backing up the licenses Gentoo uses, > maintaining the copyrights on Gentoo's software, documentation > and other assets and protecting Gentoo's intellectual property" > > and also: > > "In other words, the Gentoo Foundation will: > > [...] > > - protect the developed code, documentation, artwork and other > material through copyright and licenses" Which isn't really related, as we can only protect what we own. > Therefore, the copyright to an ebuild is or should be actively and > simply turned over to the Gentoo Foundation by the developer, and this > should be made policy and should be explained properly in a few places > in our documentation. > > Should I file a documentation bug about this? Well, documention won't help to resolve the legal questions about this (what exactly is necessary to assign copyright from a person to the foundation), and that's the main problem IMO. Marius -- Marius Mauch -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list