From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I8MuO-0007cA-Pu for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:06:09 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6AL5DgE007298; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:05:13 GMT Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org (pentafluge.infradead.org [213.146.154.40]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6AL3DHp004910 for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:03:13 GMT Received: from dsl093-040-174.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.93.40.174] helo=localhost) by pentafluge.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.63 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1I8MrY-000667-Gp for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:03:13 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:49:29 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Watch out for license changes to GPL-3. Message-ID: <20070710204929.GA1356@kroah.com> References: <4690C4B8.4000407@gentoo.org> <200707081350.27220.philantrop@gentoo.org> <1183899969.6634.1.camel@localhost> <20070708164657.4edd8378@localhost> <20070709163914.GB16617@kroah.com> <20070709210720.4583dd06@localhost> <20070709212456.GA22067@kroah.com> <20070710191035.2dfcfa98@localhost> <20070710181130.GA30117@kroah.com> <4693EE1A.1020007@lacqui.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4693EE1A.1020007@lacqui.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15 (2007-04-06) X-Archives-Salt: 4866891b-b96a-4da7-bf3d-2ad7e73b16d5 X-Archives-Hash: c0163f1ef8969c922c550ddc308e6c98 On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 05:37:46PM -0300, Kevin Lacquement wrote: > Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 07:10:35PM +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: > >>>> Can you explain more. If the kernel can be tivoized by someone > >>> I'm sorry, but "tivoized" is not a verb. Please explain what you mean > >>> by this. > >> I mean if someone distribute a kernel with a licence that forbid to remove the > >> functions he added even if we don't want them (as example drm at the kernel > >> level as in Vista), > > > > But that's impossible with the current Linux kernel license, so how > > could that ever happen? Why even try to discuss an impossiblity? > > > > I understood it to mean that you're allowed to change the source, but > the hardware has locks on it to prevent you from using the changed > source. So yes, you're allowed to modify the code and pass it on (as > permitted by the GPL), but you can't actually run it (eg due to code > signing requirements) The GPLv2 is all about distribution, not use cases, so yes, this is the case and is perfictly legal with GPLv2 (even the FSF explicitly told Tivo that what they were doing was legal and acceptable.) So, what is the problem here? The kernel is not going to change licenses any time soon, so I don't understand your objections. thanks, greg k-h -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list