From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HxZUh-0007fq-C8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:18:59 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l5B2HudT013587; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:17:56 GMT Received: from alnrmhc16.comcast.net (alnrmhc16.comcast.net [206.18.177.56]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l5B2G4qm011298 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:16:05 GMT Received: from seldon (c-67-171-130-60.hsd1.or.comcast.net[67.171.130.60]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc16) with SMTP id <20070611021603b1600nvp35e>; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:16:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:15:35 -0700 From: Brian Harring To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML Message-ID: <20070611021535.GE5778@seldon> References: <4667A38B.7070308@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+nBD6E3TurpgldQp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Archives-Salt: c98181cf-9580-4752-98f2-9e8f78e86c16 X-Archives-Hash: 116dd4dd57b0a3adbf96d76ba76ddee3 --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 10, 2007 at 02:31:02PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > Kumba wrote: >=20 > > Anyways, thoughts? >=20 > Yes please. Guess I'll be the killjoy, and throw in the -1 on it. Reasons are pretty straightforward (at least to me): 1) Creating such channels is just attempting to shift the problem out=20 of sight. 2) Shifting said problem into a concentrated arena means the incidence=20 of idiot conflicts/trolling/needling/whatever is likely to increase 3) said increase means proctors/devrel have more work (meaning more=20 random outbursts at the proctors/devrel when folks realize that they=20 *are* going to enforce the behaviour rules, and that the outburstes=20 can be punished too). 4) look through -dev history; the issue isn't OT discussion, it's=20 people needling/harassing/trolling/(chose your verb) kicking off yet=20 another "mine is bigger" last word battle on the ml. Basically, what does this solve? If the intention is to create an OTW=20 equivalent for the forums, sure, go nuts, but I strongly doubt it'll=20 improve things on -dev. So what is the explicit purpose of this? Honestly assumed it was just=20 a joke at debians expense initially, but folks seem to be serious=20 about it... ~harring --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGbLBGsiLx3HvNzgcRAojGAKDEW6qb15sXP8CWVjb3PAoqsdfpsACgxfiz kCgi/2GAGtwGVIsOVVdLepw= =8ocN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list