From: Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070606152947.GH26971@feynman.corp.halliburton.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181080828.17690.132.camel@workbox.quova.com>
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Chris Gianelloni wrote: [Tue Jun 05 2007, 05:00:28PM CDT]
> As a member of the Council, I find it personally offensive that the
> Proctors have taken this action on what wasn't even a "problem" thread.
> I'm sick of this. I call for the immediate disbanding of the Proctors.
>
> As much as I dislike many of the posts from geoman/ciaranm, they really
> had not done anything worthy of being banned. I ask that this ban is
> undone *immediately* and that the Proctors have their powers revoked.
*Sigh* I, too, was quite surprised to see people banned for what
appeared to be reasonable behavior (in this case). That said, I wish
you'd started w/ a more temperate response, instead of going all nuclear
on the proctors. It's likely to create some hard feelings, and that
just makes things harder to fix.
So, how about using this incident as an opportunity for a calm
discussion about the mandate and role of the proctors? The proctors
clearly felt that they should shut down this thread _before_ things
got out of hand. Perhaps the goal was laudable, but the methods were
not? (As an aside, I didn't realize that Roy's e-mail was supposed to
be a proctor directive.) Or are people really looking for the proctors
to get involved only when behavior is particularly egregious? Is there
a way to fix the current system, or should it be chucked entirely, as
has been suggested?
Well reasoned thoughts and opinions welcome.
-g2boojum-
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-05 20:09 [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble Benjamin Judas
2007-06-05 20:18 ` Stephen P. Becker
2007-06-05 20:30 ` Peter Weller
2007-06-05 20:43 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2007-06-05 20:58 ` Raúl Porcel
2007-06-05 20:30 ` Christian Hartmann
2007-06-05 20:38 ` Petteri Räty
2007-06-05 20:34 ` Stephen Bennett
2007-06-05 20:29 ` Benjamin Judas
2007-06-05 20:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-05 20:53 ` Christian Hartmann
2007-06-05 21:00 ` Stephen Bennett
2007-06-05 21:08 ` George Prowse
2007-06-05 21:52 ` Stephen Bennett
2007-06-05 20:44 ` [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning Roy Bamford
2007-06-05 20:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-05 22:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-05 22:17 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2007-06-05 22:24 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-06-05 23:06 ` Richard Freeman
2007-06-05 21:00 ` Stephen P. Becker
2007-06-05 21:13 ` [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2 Wernfried Haas
2007-06-05 21:24 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2007-06-05 21:38 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-06-05 21:45 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-05 21:58 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-06-05 21:39 ` Harald van Dijk
2007-06-05 21:43 ` Retiring (Was Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2) Jason Wever
2007-06-05 22:01 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-05 22:20 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-06-06 0:53 ` Christel Dahlskjaer
2007-06-06 4:22 ` Peter Weller
[not found] ` <20070605212204.GA5638@ferdyx.org>
2007-06-05 21:50 ` [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2 Stephen Bennett
2007-06-05 22:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-05 22:08 ` Richard Brown
2007-06-05 22:17 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-06-05 22:33 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-06-06 15:29 ` Grant Goodyear [this message]
2007-06-06 15:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-06 15:44 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-06 15:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-06 16:05 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-06 16:08 ` expose
2007-06-06 16:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-06 16:32 ` expose
2007-06-06 22:07 ` Dawid Węgliński
2007-06-07 1:06 ` expose
2007-06-06 18:03 ` Anders Hellgren
2007-06-06 22:32 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2007-06-06 16:00 ` expose
2007-06-06 16:33 ` Mike Doty
2007-06-06 16:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-06 16:56 ` Mike Doty
2007-06-06 17:44 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2007-06-06 17:08 ` Mauricio Lima Pilla
2007-06-06 23:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-06 16:58 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-06 16:06 ` Marien Zwart
2007-06-06 17:40 ` Maurice van der Pot
2007-06-06 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] Proctors - improve the concept or discard it? Wulf C. Krueger
2007-06-06 17:16 ` expose
2007-06-06 23:47 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-07 0:08 ` George Prowse
2007-06-07 0:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-07 10:15 ` George Prowse
2007-06-07 10:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-06-07 10:47 ` Richard Freeman
2007-06-07 11:45 ` George Prowse
2007-06-07 11:23 ` Alexandre Buisse
2007-06-07 11:51 ` George Prowse
2007-06-06 17:37 ` Galevsky
2007-06-06 22:12 ` Richard Freeman
[not found] ` <4666ECD2.5040603@gentoo.org>
2007-06-06 17:52 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-06-06 19:31 ` George Prowse
2007-06-06 23:45 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-07 13:37 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-07 22:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-06-07 13:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Wulf C. Krueger
2007-06-07 22:45 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2007-06-06 17:55 ` [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2 Josh Sled
2007-06-06 18:14 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-06-06 23:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-06-06 18:17 ` expose
2007-06-06 18:25 ` expose
2007-06-06 19:36 ` Jeffrey Gardner
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