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From: Wernfried Haas <amne@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: proctors@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [half-PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 17:21:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070531152120.GC12074@superlupo.rechner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E4C350540ADC40FEADFA756366999CB0@twi31o2.org>

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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 10:22:31AM -0400, Chrissy Fullam wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 03:01:07AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >> Sad to see one of the few remaining sane people leave.
> 
> > I take this as a compliment to Bryan, but then still you are implying
> > that most of the people here are not sane.

> Amne, I do value your opinion but in this case, I respectfully
> disagree.

Fair enough.

> I do not see the harm in what Ciaran said above to be any greater than
> another person stating "sad to see one of the best/key/etc leave" - by
> your standards that would imply the rest of us are less than best.

That would be a positive statement because it would imply the other
people are normal, and Bryan was one of the best, which is a positive
statement.
Saying "one of the few remaining sane" people is a generally negative
statement that is judgemental towards the whole community, which is
what the the CoC/proctors are supposed to proactively discourage.

I think much worse things have been said on this list before, but
still statements like that are the basis of a poisonous
environment. All i was asking ciaranm is to be nice to people.

> Ciaran may be controversial at times, but I think we can see that he was
> paying Bryan a compliment.

I even admitted it was meant as a compliment, see above.

Hope that clears things up a bit.

cheers,
	Wernfried

PS: If anyone feels tempted to reply to this, please take it to the
gentoo-proctors list instead of -dev, we're getting OT here. ;-)

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-31 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-31  1:35 [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo! Bryan Østergaard
2007-05-31  1:44 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2007-05-31  2:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-31 12:58   ` [half-PROCTORS] " Wernfried Haas
2007-05-31 13:25     ` [half-PROCTOLOGISTS] " Stephen P. Becker
2007-05-31 14:22     ` [half-PROCTORS] " Chrissy Fullam
2007-05-31 15:21       ` Wernfried Haas [this message]
2007-05-31 15:41         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-31 18:28         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [half-PROCTORS] " Duncan
2007-05-31 17:51     ` [half-PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] " Stephen Bennett
2007-05-31 17:58       ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2007-05-31  2:09 ` Marius Mauch
2007-05-31  3:16 ` Alin Năstac
2007-05-31  4:56 ` Peter Weller
2007-05-31  6:25 ` Tobias Scherbaum
2007-05-31  6:32 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2007-05-31  7:05 ` Ned Ludd
2007-05-31  7:47   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-31  8:32     ` Ned Ludd
2007-05-31  7:54 ` Krzysiek Pawlik
2007-05-31  8:37 ` Bjarke Istrup Pedersen
2007-05-31 13:41 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2007-05-31 16:17 ` [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo! [THOSE AREN'T PROCTORS...] [eroyf, you're in here too] Michael Cummings
2007-05-31 19:19 ` [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo! Juergen.Schinker
2007-05-31 20:44   ` Benno Schulenberg
2007-06-01 11:42     ` [gentoo-dev] " Holger Hoffstaette
2007-06-01  8:44 ` Steve Long
2007-06-06  0:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christel Dahlskjaer

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