From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HkmVg-0004YZ-J5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 19:35:09 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l46JWm44009411; Sun, 6 May 2007 19:32:48 GMT Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l46JTpIB005214 for ; Sun, 6 May 2007 19:29:52 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3728D314 for ; Sun, 6 May 2007 20:53:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14061-10 for ; Sun, 6 May 2007 20:53:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snowflake (unknown [62.6.163.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982B68D305 for ; Sun, 6 May 2007 20:53:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 20:28:41 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 news item for review: Radiant upgrade Message-ID: <20070506202841.1fb9320b@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <200705061519.53199.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> References: <1178433936.13701.10.camel@ip6-localhost> <200705061453.22578.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> <20070506200238.0f53c92f@snowflake> <200705061519.53199.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_vZ8G8NqYUxGpjUbRJ+c5lrd; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ferdyx.org X-Archives-Salt: 10818314-434f-4cf4-b5ba-af562ac9ec37 X-Archives-Hash: 3a93b2f3d4319a642b942143fef5b0f1 --Sig_vZ8G8NqYUxGpjUbRJ+c5lrd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 6 May 2007 15:19:53 -0400 Dan Meltzer wrote: > On Sunday 06 May 2007 3:02:38 pm Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sun, 6 May 2007 14:53:22 -0400 > > Dan Meltzer wrote: > > > > One of the reasons GLEP 42 was necessary was because users > > > > *don't* read things delivered by other methods. > > > > > > And they are magically going to read the news? >=20 > Experience being two news items about one package. Expand this to a > tree size, where the user has around 400-500 packages. If they get > news about changes that will increase their experience for each one > of these, they are looking at reading the New York Times of gentoo > every day. It's not going to happen. And, if that happens (which it won't), we'll have more experience and we can evaluate future news items based upon that. A more realistic view for your typical user is less than a news item per week. > > Paludis users do not consider that news item trivial. >=20 > If I was a paludis user I would considder this trivial. The same > information is availible a) from the package itself. b) from the > changelog, and c) it still works without the change! But you aren't, and those who are disagree. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_vZ8G8NqYUxGpjUbRJ+c5lrd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPixr96zL6DUtXhERAht6AKC3VObI5H4LjIhk0KStlewout7fBwCfU9A4 WvfJ9YUKiQHGkYF77y0ceTY= =jYwU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_vZ8G8NqYUxGpjUbRJ+c5lrd-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list