From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HkSLt-00057S-K2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 22:03:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l45M08xn006956; Sat, 5 May 2007 22:00:08 GMT Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l45LuHI9000767 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 21:56:17 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68B58D315 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 23:21:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26839-10 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 23:21:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snowflake (unknown [62.6.163.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342828D305 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 23:21:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 22:55:14 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: modifications to GLEP42 Message-ID: <20070505225514.3ca5b131@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <463CFAD1.70503@gentoo.org> References: <463CF698.6090904@gentoo.org> <20070505223429.52937697@snowflake> <463CFAD1.70503@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_RYJtufdF_qo4n.7tlmb.x0n; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ferdyx.org X-Archives-Salt: eca3c9fc-422f-4029-99e7-8dd83f28c547 X-Archives-Hash: f3c4018b866435cb9b1b3109b171dd5a --Sig_RYJtufdF_qo4n.7tlmb.x0n Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 05 May 2007 14:44:49 -0700 Mike Doty wrote: > > Well, if you're going about improving it, start by adding in the > > Display-If-Upgrading-From-To: header. It'll be a nuisance to > > implement, but it'll be far more useful than any of the rest of > > this. > > Your word doesn't inspire most of us. If you think this is a good > idea, you need to explain why. There's no way to mark a news item as "to be read" when a user upgrades from, say, =3Dfoo/bar-1.2 . Ideally there would be. It wasn't in the first GLEP because it's trickier from a package manager implementation perspective. > >> 2. Standards for news items: Based on the paludis news item > >> thread, it's clear we need some standards for what we release as > >> news. If combined with #1 we can set different standards and give > >> the users some more choice on what they accept and what we publish. > >=20 > > It's quite simple. If releasing a news item improves the user > > experience of affected users more than not releasing it, the news > > item should be released. > > It clearly isn't that simple. Well, it is in theory. In practice determining into which category a particular news item falls isn't so easy. Perhaps this should be left alone until after we have experience delivering, say, a few dozen news items to a wider audience. Currently the only evidence we have as to the level of news items expected by users is fairly limited. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_RYJtufdF_qo4n.7tlmb.x0n Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFGPP1F96zL6DUtXhERAqr3AKCrGErV14t9v/zHtBis9lZw9rLqnACYvOOg qfqGQzvauCBXEmZVBRpY6g== =su8e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_RYJtufdF_qo4n.7tlmb.x0n-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list