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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@ciaranm.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24
Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 22:06:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070505220631.2f12f833@snowflake> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <463CEF9A.60203@gentoo.org>

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On Sat, 05 May 2007 22:56:58 +0200
Jakub Moc <jakub@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I'm not trying to sabotage anything but total misuse of the feature.
> Would have the same objections wrt whatever other "critical" news
> that'd constitute completely inappropriate usage of GLEP42 features.
> (And I'd expect that you'd show a bit more knowledge of the GLEP you
> are a co-author of, frankly.)

Have you stopped to consider that, as author of the GLEP, I know
exactly what it was intended to do and how it works?

It's a change to a core configuration file requiring explicit user
action from every user. It is not merely a notice about a new feature
or a behaviour change that only affects a small proportion of users.
The former gets a news item, the latter gets an elog.

> The relevant paludis output has been pasted twice already, so let me
> try one last time:
> 
> <snip>
>   ... Use of token '*' is deprecated, use '*/*' instead
> </snip>
> 
> How much more explanation about this 'critical' change do the users
> *need*? If they don't get the above, maybe paludis and Linux just
> isn't for them and they should stick to Windows. Meanwhile there's no
> need to establish a precedent of using critical news for PEBKAC
> issues.

Experience has shown that without a news item, many users will ask for
clarification or confirmation before making any changes, and with a
news item users will be reassured that they're doing the right thing
and that this is a deliberate change. Bear in mind that a large
proportion of users didn't create those files by hand and haven't
edited them themselves.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-05 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-04 20:49 [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24 Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-05-04 21:46 ` Thomas Rösner
2007-05-04 21:56   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-05-04 22:13     ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-05-04 22:22       ` Alexander Færøy
2007-05-04 22:30         ` Petteri Räty
2007-05-04 22:34           ` Petteri Räty
2007-05-04 22:40             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-04 22:47               ` Petteri Räty
2007-05-04 23:18                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-04 22:37           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-04 22:56             ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-05-04 23:01               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-04 22:38         ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-05-04 23:17           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05  4:18             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-05-05  8:07             ` [gentoo-dev] " Marius Mauch
2007-05-05 12:45               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 13:51                 ` Marius Mauch
2007-05-05 14:01                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 13:37               ` Stephen P. Becker
2007-05-05 13:48                 ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 13:59                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 14:15                     ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 14:21                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 15:12                 ` Marius Mauch
2007-05-05 15:23                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 15:44                     ` Marius Mauch
2007-05-05 15:51                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 16:25                         ` Alec Warner
2007-05-05 16:31                         ` Matthias Langer
2007-05-05 15:42                   ` Stephen Bennett
2007-05-05 15:34                     ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 15:41                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-04 22:50 ` Dan Meltzer
2007-05-04 22:58   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-04 23:48     ` Dan Meltzer
2007-05-04 23:52       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05  0:01         ` Dan Meltzer
2007-05-05  0:07           ` Dan Meltzer
2007-05-05  0:09           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05  8:30         ` Marius Mauch
2007-05-05 12:46           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 12:53             ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 13:02               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 13:15                 ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 13:23                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 13:37                     ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 13:42                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 14:05                     ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-05-05 14:14                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 14:40                         ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-05-05 15:03                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 13:28             ` Marius Mauch
2007-05-05 13:40               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05  9:06 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-05-05 11:44 ` Maurice van der Pot
2007-05-05 12:50   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 17:08     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2007-05-05 17:21       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 17:34         ` Wernfried Haas
2007-05-05 17:42           ` expose
2007-05-05 17:46           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 18:53             ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-05-05 19:18             ` Wernfried Haas
2007-05-05 19:29               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 20:00                 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-05-05 20:11                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 20:19                     ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 20:27                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 20:37                         ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 20:44                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 20:50                             ` expose
2007-05-05 21:10                               ` [gentoo-dev] " »Q«
2007-05-05 21:26                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 21:48                                   ` Maurice van der Pot
2007-05-05 21:56                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 22:09                                       ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 22:21                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 22:30                                           ` expose
2007-05-05 22:38                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 22:37                                           ` Alec Warner
2007-05-05 22:56                                             ` Christian Hartmann
2007-05-05 23:10                                               ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 23:24                                                 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-05-05 22:27                                   ` »Q«
2007-05-05 22:42                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 20:56                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 21:06                               ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2007-05-05 21:00                             ` expose
2007-05-05 21:25                             ` Maurice van der Pot
2007-05-05 20:43                         ` [PROCTORS] " Wernfried Haas
2007-05-05 20:03                 ` Jakub Moc
2007-05-05 20:12                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-05-05 20:54                     ` George Prowse
2007-05-05 21:03                       ` [PROCTORS] " Wernfried Haas
2007-05-05 17:39         ` expose
2007-05-05 15:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-05-05 21:53 ` [PROCTORS] Re: [gentoo-dev] " Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2007-05-05 22:04   ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2007-05-06  4:52 ` Daniel Drake
2007-05-06  8:53   ` expose

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