From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HkL6n-0003Zo-Lk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 14:19:38 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l45EI4m5000578; Sat, 5 May 2007 14:18:05 GMT Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l45EFO3h029621 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 14:15:24 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA368D30C for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 15:41:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21880-01 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 15:41:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snowflake (unknown [62.6.163.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D298D305 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 15:41:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 15:14:25 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24 Message-ID: <20070505151425.546a9437@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <200705051605.12269.philantrop@gentoo.org> References: <200705042249.48267.peper@gentoo.org> <463C838B.5060604@gentoo.org> <20070505142341.0a36a7a5@snowflake> <200705051605.12269.philantrop@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_5T5zSvreEBu7ehGpFt_wE66; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ferdyx.org X-Archives-Salt: b6669b80-9899-46ff-96f4-8325fb6b9c4f X-Archives-Hash: ed90e755b9a6265c9111afee812c2454 --Sig_5T5zSvreEBu7ehGpFt_wE66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 5 May 2007 16:05:08 +0200 "Wulf C. Krueger" wrote: > On Saturday, May 5, 2007 03:23:41 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > [Paludis configuration: * -> */*] > > Experience and user feedback has shown that in situations like this > > users want an accompanying news item even if the application does > > output deprecation warnings. >=20 > Currently, there are two news item in the Paludis overlay. Unless > earlier ones were removed, those two seem to be a fairly small sample > to deduce anything from. They were. > Furthermore, GLEP42 states: >=20 > "News items must only be for important changes that may cause serious=20 > upgrade or compatibility problems. Ordinary upgrade messages and=20 > non-critical news items should remain in einfo notices." >=20 > 2007-05-04-paludis-0.24 doesn't fit this description. That isn't the > real problem, though.=20 This is sufficiently important to Paludis users that Paludis users should see a news item for it. > The real problem with issuing news items for trivial changes is that=20 > people will just start marking such news items read without really=20 > reading them or even stop synching news items completely. This is not a trivial change. > Then, elog and friends would be fully sufficient for informing users > about such configuration changes - under the circumstances of this > case at least. We already know from similar cases that this isn't true. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_5T5zSvreEBu7ehGpFt_wE66 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPJFD96zL6DUtXhERAitTAJ4zHXu09SwphIwaUSMd89K1lHU7zwCgvyvY Tbp8q5DiOe3z9CzfmMy9618= =fdwu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_5T5zSvreEBu7ehGpFt_wE66-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list