From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HkKdd-0002RK-05 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 13:49:29 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l45DlZB4026960; Sat, 5 May 2007 13:47:35 GMT Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l45Dh8vk019046 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 13:43:08 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B358D30C for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 15:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18984-09 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 15:08:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snowflake (unknown [62.6.163.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A2F8D305 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 15:08:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 14:42:11 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24 Message-ID: <20070505144211.519370ee@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <463C88A0.3000407@gentoo.org> References: <200705042249.48267.peper@gentoo.org> <200705041850.00514.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> <20070504235844.136fd6cf@snowflake> <200705041948.19737.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> <20070505005246.18a8fe84@snowflake> <20070505103040.44dfdc4c@sheridan.genone.homeip.net> <20070505134632.7c0ed334@snowflake> <463C7E5B.2090203@gentoo.org> <20070505140210.30189854@snowflake> <463C838B.5060604@gentoo.org> <20070505142341.0a36a7a5@snowflake> <463C88A0.3000407@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_XUQ4UO0d/3QnHR..qHw.UrY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ferdyx.org X-Archives-Salt: e7d4cf48-1ef6-4d48-8465-d58c92a4e319 X-Archives-Hash: d4efe2a1e3359fe39bef1bf56d03eb5e --Sig_XUQ4UO0d/3QnHR..qHw.UrY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:37:36 +0200 Jakub Moc wrote: > That's not what I've been pointing out at all, you've completely > snipped the important part about *unintended* use of this feature. > So, once again - this is not an elog replacement and is not intended > for trivial stuff (see the 'critical news' in GLEP42 title). This is not trivial stuff and it is not adequately solved by elog. > > Experience and user feedback has shown that in situations like this > > users want an accompanying news item even if the application does > > output deprecation warnings. >=20 > Well again, what kind of experience? You cannot just carry over an > existing practice of heavily abusing such stuff in a particular > overlay with a couple of ebuilds and implant it into a tree with > thousands of packages - it will produce loads of annoying noise and > the feature will become useless if every maintainer starts to use > news framework in a similar way. Er, no it won't. Again, you're not understanding how GLEP 42 works. Perhaps you should gain some real experience in using it and observing how real users respond to it before you make such claims. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_XUQ4UO0d/3QnHR..qHw.UrY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPIm196zL6DUtXhERAuPZAJ0Qalry4C/OQohdUH37QBeioRqLlwCdF8Zk kY7a0vmDZjQtJg5rGpVZ1Fg= =fvFo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_XUQ4UO0d/3QnHR..qHw.UrY-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list