From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HkKIC-0007Pj-OB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 13:27:21 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l45DQQbK005139; Sat, 5 May 2007 13:26:26 GMT Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l45DOdIu002876 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 13:24:40 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88048D30C for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 14:50:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19016-07 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 14:50:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snowflake (unknown [62.6.163.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B10318D305 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 14:50:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 14:23:41 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24 Message-ID: <20070505142341.0a36a7a5@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <463C838B.5060604@gentoo.org> References: <200705042249.48267.peper@gentoo.org> <200705041850.00514.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> <20070504235844.136fd6cf@snowflake> <200705041948.19737.hydrogen@notyetimplemented.com> <20070505005246.18a8fe84@snowflake> <20070505103040.44dfdc4c@sheridan.genone.homeip.net> <20070505134632.7c0ed334@snowflake> <463C7E5B.2090203@gentoo.org> <20070505140210.30189854@snowflake> <463C838B.5060604@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_+OLZMAbMXung2.dWdVaJVa1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ferdyx.org X-Archives-Salt: 277ecaf0-7bfb-4b7b-994f-a245e347fb15 X-Archives-Hash: dbf9b6620257b7380db2ba75abf2d46e --Sig_+OLZMAbMXung2.dWdVaJVa1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 05 May 2007 15:15:55 +0200 Jakub Moc wrote: > > Only Paludis users will use the news item. To Paludis users, the > > news item is not a triviality or noise. To everyone else it's > > irrelevant. >=20 > How does it matter exactly whether it's paludis users, gcc users, php > users, apache users or whoever else who will use the news item? Let's > not misuse news framework for stuff that Er, that's one of the main points of GLEP 42's design: it allows delivery of news items that are important to a subset of users only to that subset. The size of the subset is entirely irrelevant. > For this particular case, you can (and do even) advise specifically > the affected users only on runtime that the config files syntax has > been changed. (Frankly, you don't even need elog stuff for similar > things; everyone concerned will get the message paludis spits on the > screen when they try to use it). Experience and user feedback has shown that in situations like this users want an accompanying news item even if the application does output deprecation warnings. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_+OLZMAbMXung2.dWdVaJVa1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPIVg96zL6DUtXhERAqMBAKC5DBCXzQyZGzrCLhRqJXwwbgOlrACgyUH5 yg843X+c1POp0pMm1fafgb4= =oQxF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_+OLZMAbMXung2.dWdVaJVa1-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list