From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HkIjw-000709-7U for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 11:47:52 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l45BkwPF022952; Sat, 5 May 2007 11:46:58 GMT Received: from griffon26.kfk4ever.com (griffon26.demon.nl [82.161.57.89]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l45BjA1d020736 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 11:45:10 GMT Received: by griffon26.kfk4ever.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 96D336544; Sat, 5 May 2007 13:44:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 13:44:54 +0200 From: Maurice van der Pot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [news-item] Paludis 0.24 Message-ID: <20070505114454.GD23900@kfk4ever.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <200705042249.48267.peper@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200705042249.48267.peper@gentoo.org> X-PGP-Key: http://www.kfk4ever.com/~griffon26/pubkey.asc X-URL: http://www.kfk4ever.com/ X-Archives-Salt: 7a149385-a0d0-4dcf-9bfb-fc291cbc38d5 X-Archives-Hash: 78a9f12054126a3515069072de7e0a90 --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It looks like it is not clear enough what kind of news should be called critical. If for instance an upgrade from package foo-3.4 to foo-4.0 will cause the system to break unless specific steps are followed (mysql/gcc), it's obvious that it's suitable for a news item.=20 If an upgrade from an ancient version foo-0.99 to version foo-7.3 causes the system to break, it will not require a news item because it's common sense that data formats may have changed dramatically. Where do we draw the line on this? I'm not saying there should be a mathematical formula that will tell you whether or not to create a news item, but at least we all should have more or less the same idea about it. In the current situation an upgrade to paludis-0.24 will not break anything right away. On the other hand, if someone sticks to an earlier version and only upgrades after support for the old format has been removed, he may (will?) have a problem. Personally I feel we should send as few news items as possible. If we send a lot of them, people will start ignoring them. Config file formats change all the time and as long as there is a period of time where a package supports both and warns about the old format being used, I would not consider it worthy of a news item. If the application will just fail to start with the old format and the required changes are trivial, don't=20 send a news item. Regards, Maurice. --=20 Maurice van der Pot Gentoo Linux Developer griffon26@gentoo.org http://www.gentoo.org Creator of BiteMe! griffon26@kfk4ever.com http://www.kfk4ever.com --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGPG42MGnpIbeahxwRArDnAKC3TwQagDsiBEqcHFxSYLgpZo0CnwCfZNmF 0gisttZwjI00+I/cqjmTIvc= =N01l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0IvGJv3f9h+YhkrH-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list