From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HgQpD-0007CP-PV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:37:20 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3OJaSRM004882; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:36:28 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l3OJYG6c002013 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:34:16 GMT Received: from phi.witten.lan (p83.129.4.43.tisdip.tiscali.de [83.129.4.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FAB1651A1 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:34:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Danny van Dyk Organization: Gentoo To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:50:20 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200704242111.44663.kugelfang@gentoo.org> <462E5796.8080707@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <462E5796.8080707@gentoo.org> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?57Z3foFdBj=3BKdmU=5EFM=2Eec=5C4=7BQf/F6=25ePh=5C=5DM=5EaXPX*=5D?= =?utf-8?q?J5S=7CM=7E+vR=3F=24iW=5Cn44=5E2sguPTOtw=0A=09fe+7gKTm*!OXGQPYqML?= =?utf-8?q?=7CL1ezSI3-=27E=25zxZigvAK?=>3$?~'4IPBoi\H2)pV6U(26V@ =?utf-8?q?jq=7CAIp=0A=09yY?=>'!D}EOi=Q+-|CIh-d4riWfZZ">G.Rj!}78kX$8Zt0:epNWTo[{_/zJb< =?utf-8?q?Ud=2Eon=7EprEW*=0A=09tIvqI=7B+e=3AgMC?= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704242150.21013.kugelfang@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 1aee136b-0639-4d24-a174-4c176a965f1c X-Archives-Hash: a1937a408b412c768444111a52b08bb0 Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Doug Goldstein: > Danny van Dyk wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > [CC'ing council@g.o as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th, > > 2007] > > > > A subset of council members decided today that multiple version > > suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice. This > > decission can be appealed at the next Council meeting. If there is > > sufficient public demand, an earlier meeting can be held. > > > > This decission has been made to prevent sufficient precedence for > > unilateral changes to the tree structure. So far the following > > package versions are considered illegal: > > > > media-viode/mplayer-1.0_rc2_pre20070321-r4 > > media-video/transcode-1.0.3_rc2_p20070310-r1 > > > > An illegal version specification of media-sound/alsa-driver has > > already been removed from the tree. > > > > I would like to ask the affected package maintainers to move these > > versions to sane version specifications as soon as possible. Thanks > > in advance for this. > > > > Danny > > So apparently as little as 1 council member can make a decision and > it be binding unless appealed to the entire council at the next > meeting. No, that's not correct. 1 council member can't do that. During the council meeting of March 8th 2007 the Council decided that at least 2 members are necessary to act for the whole Council. FYI this decission has been made by 3 Council members, which have been Robin, Bryan and which has been initiated by myself. Further, QA indicated approval prior to this council decission. > Danny, > > This wouldn't have to be because you have a vested interest in > paludis and paludis does not support this syntax and there happens to > be no reasonable way to support that? Doug, a) Paludis could support arbitrary combinations of multiple version suffixes the same way as Portage currently support this. The Paludis developers chose not to, because b) A very large number of possible suffix combinations aren't sensible. Instead of implicitly allowing every possible combination, one should explicitly allow the sensible subset and explicitly disallow the rest. c) I try very hard to seperate my interest and work on Gentoo and the Council and my interest and work on Paludis. Personally, I would appreciate if you got back to me before you make claims as the ones i just responded to. Both claims are wrong: One evidently so (you can ask kloeri and robbat2), for the other you have to trust either me or ask the other Paludis devs. Danny -- Danny van Dyk Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list