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From: Danny van Dyk <kugelfang@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:50:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704242150.21013.kugelfang@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462E5796.8080707@gentoo.org>

Am Dienstag, 24. April 2007 schrieb Doug Goldstein:
> Danny van Dyk wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > [CC'ing council@g.o as requested by GLEP amendment from March 8th,
> > 2007]
> >
> > A subset of council members decided today that multiple version
> > suffixes are illegal in the tree pending further notice. This
> > decission can be appealed at the next Council meeting. If there is
> > sufficient public demand, an earlier meeting can be held.
> >
> > This decission has been made to prevent sufficient precedence for
> > unilateral changes to the tree structure. So far the following
> > package versions are considered illegal:
> >
> >   media-viode/mplayer-1.0_rc2_pre20070321-r4
> >   media-video/transcode-1.0.3_rc2_p20070310-r1
> >
> > An illegal version specification of media-sound/alsa-driver has
> > already been removed from the tree.
> >
> > I would like to ask the affected package maintainers to move these
> > versions to sane version specifications as soon as possible. Thanks
> > in advance for this.
> >
> > Danny
>
> So apparently as little as 1 council member can make a decision and
> it be binding unless appealed to the entire council at the next
> meeting.

No, that's not correct. 1 council member can't do that. During the 
council meeting of March 8th 2007 the Council decided that at least 2 
members are necessary to act for the whole Council.

FYI this decission has been made by 3 Council members, which have been 
Robin, Bryan and which has been initiated by myself. Further, QA  
indicated approval prior to this council decission.

> Danny,
>
> This wouldn't have to be because you have a vested interest in
> paludis and paludis does not support this syntax and there happens to
> be no reasonable way to support that?

Doug,

a) Paludis could support arbitrary combinations of multiple version 
suffixes the same way as Portage currently support this. The Paludis 
developers chose not to, because

b) A very large number of possible suffix combinations aren't sensible.
Instead of implicitly allowing every possible combination, one should 
explicitly allow the sensible subset and explicitly disallow the rest.

c) I try very hard to seperate my interest and work on Gentoo and the 
Council and my interest and work on Paludis.

Personally, I would appreciate if you got back to me before you make 
claims as the ones i just responded to. Both claims are wrong: One 
evidently so (you can ask kloeri and robbat2), for the other you have 
to trust either me or ask the other Paludis devs.

Danny
-- 
Danny van Dyk <kugelfang@gentoo.org>
Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-24 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-24 19:11 [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86 Danny van Dyk
2007-04-24 19:15 ` Steve Dibb
2007-04-24 19:31   ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-04-25  7:51     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-25  7:57       ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-25  8:17         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-25 17:06           ` Joshua Jackson
2007-04-25 17:11             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-25 17:37               ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2007-04-25  8:01       ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-25  8:08       ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-24 19:54   ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-24 20:47     ` Jurek Bartuszek
2007-04-24 20:56       ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 21:06       ` Alexis Ballier
2007-04-24 21:34         ` Jurek Bartuszek
2007-04-24 21:11       ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-24 21:08         ` Jurek Bartuszek
2007-04-24 21:19           ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-25  6:13           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-25  6:55             ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-25  7:50               ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-04-25 16:12               ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-25 16:21                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-25 16:49                   ` Chrissy Fullam
2007-04-25 16:40                 ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-25 16:49                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-24 21:20       ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-04-24 21:24         ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-04-24 21:42           ` Jurek Bartuszek
2007-04-24 22:05             ` Stephen Bennett
2007-04-24 22:04               ` Jurek Bartuszek
2007-04-24 22:29                 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-04-24 22:56                   ` Jurek Bartuszek
2007-04-24 23:19                   ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 23:24                     ` Jurek Bartuszek
2007-04-24 21:32         ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-24 21:41         ` Marius Mauch
2007-04-24 21:03     ` Robin H. Johnson
2007-04-24 21:40       ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-04-25  4:32         ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-25  5:30           ` Alec Warner
2007-04-25  9:08             ` Marius Mauch
2007-04-24 19:16 ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 19:25   ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-04-24 19:59     ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-24 19:37   ` Stephen Bennett
2007-04-24 19:49     ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 19:53       ` Bryan Østergaard
2007-04-24 20:00         ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 20:33           ` Bryan Østergaard
2007-04-24 20:40             ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 20:39           ` Ned Ludd
2007-04-24 21:46             ` Seemant Kulleen
     [not found]               ` <200704250001.56920.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2007-04-24 22:21                 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-04-24 22:30                   ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-24 23:40                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-25  1:25                     ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-04-25 16:10                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-24 23:31                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-25  1:05                     ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-04-25 11:08                       ` Richard Freeman
2007-04-25 15:52                         ` Alec Warner
2007-04-25 16:21                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-24 19:54       ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-04-24 20:14         ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 21:25         ` Marius Mauch
     [not found]       ` <20070424211212.0c670242@maya>
2007-04-24 20:08         ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 19:50   ` Danny van Dyk [this message]
2007-04-24 20:01     ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-25  7:53   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-25 17:58     ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-25 18:19       ` Joshua Jackson
2007-04-24 19:29 ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-24 21:35   ` Marius Mauch
2007-04-24 20:16 ` Petteri Räty
2007-04-24 20:46   ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-24 20:38     ` Doug Goldstein
2007-04-24 21:47     ` Mike Auty
2007-04-24 21:01 ` [PROCTORS] " Wernfried Haas
2007-04-24 21:26   ` Steev Klimaszewski
2007-04-25 16:56 ` Brian Harring
2007-04-25 23:37   ` Stephen Bennett

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