From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HcPWm-0005fF-Ht for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:25:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3DHNAU0024262; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:23:10 GMT Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org (170.Red-213-96-222.staticIP.rima-tde.net [213.96.222.170]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l3DHITN7016061 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:18:29 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83348D314 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:15:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.ferdyx.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tungsteno [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20670-10 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snowflake (unknown [62.6.163.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.ferdyx.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD518D305 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:15:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:18:27 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April) Message-ID: <20070413181827.5af2a986@snowflake> In-Reply-To: <461FB8A2.2070605@gentoo.org> References: <20070401092940.1B4C26441E@smtp.gentoo.org> <20070413142116.d6d00c8b.genone@gentoo.org> <20070413153842.6089a449@snowflake> <200704131053.39321.vapier@gentoo.org> <461FA381.3010605@gentoo.org> <20070413164238.462f4c28@snowflake> <461FAE40.50508@gentoo.org> <20070413174106.69088e84@snowflake> <461FB8A2.2070605@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.1 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_rhUHY8UtJ7rc/Yw3xEXLgtC"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ferdyx.org X-Archives-Salt: 7563225c-ff93-444f-8ffa-a0819facaded X-Archives-Hash: 8be230a7e538a750e1986458132c165b --Sig_rhUHY8UtJ7rc/Yw3xEXLgtC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:06:42 +0200 Jakub Moc wrote: > Err, your suggestion was: >=20 > * Remove automatic directory making for do* Because I was giving a one line summary, rather than a description of the full change. The full description has been discussed elsewhere several times. > So, yeah I really fail to see the point of doing stuff like this: >=20 > -dobin foo > +dodir /usr/bin > +dobin foo Which was not what was being discussed. > > If anyone really *is* relying upon dosym to create a directory, > > rather than having it happen by accident, adding in a dodir > > beforehand when switching EAPIs is easy, and will prevent > > accidental directory creation. >=20 > And who will wade through the entire tree and check for such stuff? > You? Uh. What. There's no need to do that. That's the whole point of sticking it in at an EAPI change. When people switch an ebuild's EAPI, they test it. That's required anyway because EAPI changes various behaviour options. Ebuilds whose EAPI isn't switched aren't affected. > >> If the Makefiles suck, file bugs upstream instead of dumping the > >> stuff on Gentoo users. > >=20 > > It's not the users that will see this. It's developers. The only > > time it will fail for users and not developers is when something's > > broken anyway, and that's far better than ending up with a broken > > install. >=20 > Well of course it's the users who will see it, see above. It's not > like that we would have 100 volunteers around to drop everything they > have in their hands a go spend days on changing ebuilds that are not > broken just because of this idea. Explain in more detail how users will see it please. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_rhUHY8UtJ7rc/Yw3xEXLgtC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGH7tl96zL6DUtXhERAnzjAJ9ai7lcZXxk2ZK9tWlu6UDfJoQpXQCcDazw hKKDc1xMkzNyFBkUKbmu4S4= =rylV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_rhUHY8UtJ7rc/Yw3xEXLgtC-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list