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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@ciaranm.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:18:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070413181827.5af2a986@snowflake> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <461FB8A2.2070605@gentoo.org>

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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:06:42 +0200
Jakub Moc <jakub@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Err, your suggestion was:
> 
> * Remove automatic directory making for do*

Because I was giving a one line summary, rather than a description of
the full change. The full description has been discussed elsewhere
several times.

> So, yeah I really fail to see the point of doing stuff like this:
> 
> -dobin foo
> +dodir /usr/bin
> +dobin foo

Which was not what was being discussed.

> > If anyone really *is* relying upon dosym to create a directory,
> > rather than having it happen by accident, adding in a dodir
> > beforehand when switching EAPIs is easy, and will prevent
> > accidental directory creation.
> 
> And who will wade through the entire tree and check for such stuff?
> You?

Uh. What. There's no need to do that. That's the whole point of
sticking it in at an EAPI change.

When people switch an ebuild's EAPI, they test it. That's required
anyway because EAPI changes various behaviour options. Ebuilds whose
EAPI isn't switched aren't affected.

> >> If the Makefiles suck, file bugs upstream instead of dumping the
> >> stuff on Gentoo users.
> > 
> > It's not the users that will see this. It's developers. The only
> > time it will fail for users and not developers is when something's
> > broken anyway, and that's far better than ending up with a broken
> > install.
> 
> Well of course it's the users who will see it, see above. It's not
> like that we would have 100 volunteers around to drop everything they
> have in their hands a go spend days on changing ebuilds that are not
> broken just because of this idea.

Explain in more detail how users will see it please.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-13 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-01  5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April Mike Frysinger
     [not found] ` <200704040151.56797.vapier@gentoo.org>
2007-04-04  6:08   ` Mike Doty
2007-04-04  7:45     ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-04-05 16:33       ` Mike Doty
2007-04-05 18:14     ` [gentoo-dev] " Torsten Veller
     [not found]       ` <46153DF7.5060801@gentoo.org>
2007-04-05 18:54         ` [gentoo-dev] QA sucks Torsten Veller
2007-04-05 20:40         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 21:24           ` Brian Harring
2007-04-05 22:16             ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 22:11               ` Brian Harring
2007-04-05 22:41                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-04-05 23:04                   ` Brian Harring
2007-04-05 23:07                   ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 22:59                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-04-05 23:16                 ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-11 14:41                 ` [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April) Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13  5:58                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-13  6:48                     ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 12:21                   ` Marius Mauch
2007-04-13 12:33                     ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 14:38                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 14:53                       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 15:25                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 15:52                           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 16:42                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 17:05                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
     [not found]                               ` <200704131302.00976.vapier@gentoo.org>
2007-04-13 17:07                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 17:42                                   ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]                                     ` <20070413191627.268ae249@snowflake>
2007-04-13 19:17                                       ` Daniel Ostrow
2007-04-13 19:28                                         ` Daniel Ostrow
2007-04-13 20:07                                         ` Ferris McCormick
2007-04-14  3:01                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-14  9:51                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-13 18:08                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthias Langer
2007-04-14 11:00                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-14 11:58                                       ` Petteri Räty
2007-04-14 19:09                                         ` Matthias Langer
2007-04-15  4:31                                           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 18:16                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Jackson
2007-04-13 18:36                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 19:06                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 19:33                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14  1:59                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-14  3:01                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Robin H. Johnson
2007-04-13 19:29                                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-13 19:46                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14  6:14                                       ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-14  6:41                                         ` Christopher Sawtell
2007-04-14  9:16                                           ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-14  9:51                                           ` Matthias Langer
2007-04-14  9:37                                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-13 15:36                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Jakub Moc
2007-04-13 15:42                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 16:22                             ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-13 16:41                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 17:06                                 ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-13 17:13                                   ` Petteri Räty
2007-04-13 17:18                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2007-04-13 22:02                                     ` Marius Mauch
2007-04-13 22:41                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14  2:01                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-14  9:44                       ` Alec Warner
2007-04-14 10:15                         ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-14 10:28                           ` Jan Kundrát
2007-04-14 10:33                             ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-14 15:16                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14 19:17                           ` Alec Warner
2007-04-14 21:12                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-11-09 17:41                       ` src_fetch (was Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)) Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2007-11-09 18:10                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]                   ` <evo41a$abh$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-04-13 14:50                     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April) Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 15:11                       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 15:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 15:46                           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 17:17                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-13 18:59                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14  7:43                           ` [gentoo-dev] FUD post 3,023,972 from ciaranm spills into ad-hominem. Never! Steve Long
2007-04-14  7:55                             ` Charlie Shepherd
2007-04-14 15:18                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-06 17:06           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April Paul de Vrieze
2007-04-07 23:58             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-04  8:18   ` [gentoo-dev] " Bryan Østergaard
2007-04-04  9:24     ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-04  9:55       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-04 12:03         ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-04 16:27           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-05 12:11             ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-05  8:28   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 10:37     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-05 13:36       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-04 19:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alexandre Buisse
2007-04-04 19:49   ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-04-04 20:17   ` Grant Goodyear
2007-04-04 20:54     ` Matti Bickel
2007-04-04 23:28     ` Alexandre Buisse
2007-04-05 11:29       ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-04-05 12:19         ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-04-05 13:07           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-10 15:17           ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-04-05 12:39         ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 21:33           ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-04-05  8:26     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 12:09       ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-05 12:29         ` Christopher Sawtell
2007-04-05 13:51         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 14:07           ` Matti Bickel
2007-04-05 14:47           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 15:00             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 15:22               ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 16:04                 ` Josh Saddler
2007-04-05 16:24                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 17:00                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 18:06                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-05 19:22                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 16:57                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 20:15         ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 20:31           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 13:30       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-05 20:14       ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Frysinger
2007-04-05 19:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-05 20:22   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-04-05 20:42   ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 20:47     ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-05 21:18   ` Ned Ludd
2007-04-05 21:43     ` Petteri Räty
2007-04-05 21:46     ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-05 22:32       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-12 15:23     ` [gentoo-dev] " Torsten Veller
2007-04-12 15:38       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-12 15:54       ` Jim Ramsay
2007-04-12 16:04         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-12 16:28           ` Jim Ramsay
2007-04-12 17:04           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-15 12:40             ` Richard Freeman
2007-04-15 23:27               ` Duncan

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