here is a summary of this month's meeting. people seem to think that the CoC is set in stone now when in reality it is not ... feel free to hilite anything you feel wasnt addressed in the previous discussion or anything new you've thought of (i went through the previous threads and tried to distill out things that were missed, but i cant catch it all). CoC: - amne has been doing a good job putting the group together - ask proctors to address these two issues for next meeting: - add a "mission" statement - fix wording to have a positive spin sync Social Contract with Gentoo Foundation (external entities): - trustees will review the statement to clarify things and then we'll look again at syncing documentation for mail servers: - they are supposed to be finished in terms of content - wolf will look at getting them actually committed PMS: - current status looks good in getting issues resolved - should be up and running on Gentoo infra by next meeting - let the devs sort out the todo as the current work flow seems to be getting things done finally splitting gentoo-dev mailing lists: - no real favorable backing for this - people dont like -dev because of the crap, splitting the lists will just move the crap else where, not really solving anything - let proctors do their thing and if need be, review this again limiting of council powers: - doesnt seem to be real backing for this from dev community or the council itself - if a majority of developers are truly upset/disturbed by a council decision, it should show easily - if you dont like a council member, dont vote for them next time moving gentoo-core to public archives: - many people dislike this moving forward - use -dev over -core for most things - not going to happen at this time - look into getting a dev-only archive finally surveys: - robbat2 will look at getting user/dev surveys in place after the release of 2007.0 - probably try and take fresh surveys after each bi-annual release from now on to see if we're meeting many of users' desires new metastructure proposal: - doesnt seem to address any of the problems it proposes to - a large majority of developers and users prefer the single tree development style that Gentoo has versus many smaller trees full log at the normal place: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20070412.txt -mike