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From: Alexandre Buisse <nattfodd@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 21:36:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070404193643.GA7174@ubik> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070401092940.1B4C26441E@smtp.gentoo.org>

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On Sun, Apr  1, 2007 at 12:32:06 +0200, Mike Frysinger wrote:

> This is your monthly friendly reminder !  Same bat time (typically
> the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1500 EST), same bat channel
> (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) !
> 
> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
> vote on, let us know !  Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
> Gentoo dev list to see.

Hi,

I won't take this to the council myself, but I think this should be
discussed at the very least: we need a way to limit the council power,
since it seems there is nothing to this effect in the metastructure
glep. I think that when members of the council, who have total control
on gentoo, say things like "I don't feel we should listen to what the
dev community thinks", then one should begin to worry.

Concretely, I suggest that a reasonable way is created to appeal council
decisions. Of course, one should make sure that this won't led to
systematic appeals that would only make people lose time (something like
"20% of devs must have agreed to this before any vote takes place", or
so).

If enough people are interested, I'm sure someone will step up to
present this to the council, and if not, well, it will just have been
another lost email on this list.

Regards,
/Alexandre

PS: sorry to post this with my g.o address, I haven't resubscribed with
another address yet.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 197+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-01  5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April Mike Frysinger
     [not found] ` <200704040151.56797.vapier@gentoo.org>
2007-04-04  6:08   ` Mike Doty
2007-04-04  7:45     ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-04-05 16:33       ` Mike Doty
2007-04-05 18:14     ` [gentoo-dev] " Torsten Veller
     [not found]       ` <46153DF7.5060801@gentoo.org>
2007-04-05 18:54         ` [gentoo-dev] QA sucks Torsten Veller
2007-04-05 20:40         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 21:24           ` Brian Harring
2007-04-05 22:16             ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 22:11               ` Brian Harring
2007-04-05 22:41                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-04-05 23:04                   ` Brian Harring
2007-04-05 23:07                   ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 22:59                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-04-05 23:16                 ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-11 14:41                 ` [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April) Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13  5:58                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-13  6:48                     ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 12:21                   ` Marius Mauch
2007-04-13 12:33                     ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 14:38                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 14:53                       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 15:25                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 15:52                           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 16:42                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 17:05                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
     [not found]                               ` <200704131302.00976.vapier@gentoo.org>
2007-04-13 17:07                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 17:42                                   ` Mike Frysinger
     [not found]                                     ` <20070413191627.268ae249@snowflake>
2007-04-13 19:17                                       ` Daniel Ostrow
2007-04-13 19:28                                         ` Daniel Ostrow
2007-04-13 20:07                                         ` Ferris McCormick
2007-04-14  3:01                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-14  9:51                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-13 18:08                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Matthias Langer
2007-04-14 11:00                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-14 11:58                                       ` Petteri Räty
2007-04-14 19:09                                         ` Matthias Langer
2007-04-15  4:31                                           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 18:16                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Jackson
2007-04-13 18:36                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 19:06                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 19:33                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14  1:59                                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-14  3:01                                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Robin H. Johnson
2007-04-13 19:29                                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-13 19:46                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14  6:14                                       ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-14  6:41                                         ` Christopher Sawtell
2007-04-14  9:16                                           ` Luca Barbato
2007-04-14  9:51                                           ` Matthias Langer
2007-04-14  9:37                                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-13 15:36                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Jakub Moc
2007-04-13 15:42                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 16:22                             ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-13 16:41                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 17:06                                 ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-13 17:13                                   ` Petteri Räty
2007-04-13 17:18                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 22:02                                     ` Marius Mauch
2007-04-13 22:41                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14  2:01                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-14  9:44                       ` Alec Warner
2007-04-14 10:15                         ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-14 10:28                           ` Jan Kundrát
2007-04-14 10:33                             ` Jakub Moc
2007-04-14 15:16                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14 19:17                           ` Alec Warner
2007-04-14 21:12                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-11-09 17:41                       ` src_fetch (was Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)) Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2007-11-09 18:10                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]                   ` <evo41a$abh$1@sea.gmane.org>
2007-04-13 14:50                     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April) Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 15:11                       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 15:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-13 15:46                           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-13 17:17                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-13 18:59                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-14  7:43                           ` [gentoo-dev] FUD post 3,023,972 from ciaranm spills into ad-hominem. Never! Steve Long
2007-04-14  7:55                             ` Charlie Shepherd
2007-04-14 15:18                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-06 17:06           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April Paul de Vrieze
2007-04-07 23:58             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-04  8:18   ` [gentoo-dev] " Bryan Østergaard
2007-04-04  9:24     ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-04  9:55       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-04 12:03         ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-04 16:27           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-05 12:11             ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-05  8:28   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 10:37     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-05 13:36       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-04 19:36 ` Alexandre Buisse [this message]
2007-04-04 19:49   ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2007-04-04 20:17   ` Grant Goodyear
2007-04-04 20:54     ` Matti Bickel
2007-04-04 23:28     ` Alexandre Buisse
2007-04-05 11:29       ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-04-05 12:19         ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-04-05 13:07           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-10 15:17           ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-04-05 12:39         ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 21:33           ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-04-05  8:26     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 12:09       ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-05 12:29         ` Christopher Sawtell
2007-04-05 13:51         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 14:07           ` Matti Bickel
2007-04-05 14:47           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 15:00             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 15:22               ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 16:04                 ` Josh Saddler
2007-04-05 16:24                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 17:00                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 18:06                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-05 19:22                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 16:57                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-05 20:15         ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 20:31           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-05 13:30       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-04-05 20:14       ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Frysinger
2007-04-05 19:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-05 20:22   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2007-04-05 20:42   ` Danny van Dyk
2007-04-05 20:47     ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-05 21:18   ` Ned Ludd
2007-04-05 21:43     ` Petteri Räty
2007-04-05 21:46     ` Wernfried Haas
2007-04-05 22:32       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-12 15:23     ` [gentoo-dev] " Torsten Veller
2007-04-12 15:38       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-04-12 15:54       ` Jim Ramsay
2007-04-12 16:04         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-12 16:28           ` Jim Ramsay
2007-04-12 17:04           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-04-15 12:40             ` Richard Freeman
2007-04-15 23:27               ` Duncan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-01  5:30 [gentoo-dev] " Mike Frysinger
2009-04-01 11:28 ` David Leverton
2009-04-01 12:24 ` Ulrich Mueller
2009-04-02  9:53 ` Fabian Groffen
2009-04-02 14:47   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-04-06 17:24     ` Fabian Groffen
2009-04-06 17:33       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-04-01  5:30 Mike Frysinger
2008-04-02 20:46 ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-02 20:53   ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-04-02 21:16     ` joshua jackson
2008-04-02 21:28     ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-02 21:19   ` Mike Auty
2008-04-02 21:26     ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-02 21:33       ` Richard Brown
2008-04-02 21:36       ` Jan Kundrát
2008-04-03  1:21         ` Richard Freeman
2008-04-03  6:42           ` Fabian Groffen
2008-04-03 11:06             ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-02 21:42       ` Mike Auty
2008-04-02 22:41         ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-03  1:56       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-04-03 11:05         ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-03 11:35           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-04-03 11:39             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-04-03 11:49               ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-03 11:56                 ` Mike Auty
2008-04-03 12:01                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-04-03 12:17                     ` Mike Auty
2008-04-03 12:23                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-04-03 12:29                         ` Patrick Lauer
2008-04-03 12:33                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-04-03 12:44                             ` Patrick Lauer
2008-04-03 12:46                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-04-03 12:55                                 ` Patrick Lauer
2008-04-03 12:56                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-04-04  6:38                                   ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-04-03 12:34                       ` Patrick Lauer
2008-04-03 11:49             ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2008-04-03 19:03               ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-04-03 13:53             ` Thomas Anderson
2008-04-03 16:58               ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-04-03 14:02           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-04-03  0:35     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-04-03 12:21       ` Mike Auty
2008-04-03 13:21         ` Richard Freeman
2008-04-03 19:08           ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-04-03 14:35   ` Chrissy Fullam
2008-04-03 15:56     ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-03 16:16       ` Chrissy Fullam
2008-04-04  8:26       ` Peter Volkov
2008-04-07 20:37       ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-07 21:05         ` Mike Pagano
2008-04-08  0:10           ` Petteri Räty
2008-04-08  0:57             ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-04-07 21:27         ` Jan Kundrát
2008-04-08 17:30         ` Roy Bamford
2008-04-08 20:00           ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-04-10 18:52         ` Raúl Porcel
2008-04-03  7:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-04-01  9:22 Mike Frysinger
2006-04-11  4:02 ` Mike Frysinger

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