From: Christopher Sawtell <csawtell@paradise.net.nz>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:13:10 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703310913.11497.csawtell@paradise.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070330212332.31c1bee7@snowflake>
On Saturday 31 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:13:18 +0100
>
> Roy Marples <uberlord@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:50:59 +0100
> >
> > Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@ciaranm.org> wrote:
> > > A few years ago Gentoo had some serious advantages over the
> > > competition. These days, Gentoo is at serious risk of being Red
> > > Queened by Ubuntu and Fedora. Providing the same thing that was
> > > provided two years ago isn't enough. If Portage can't deliver
> > > functionality that makes Gentoo competitive with where Ubuntu will
> > > be a year from now, Portage has to be replaced.
> >
> > You seem to be under the misapprehension that Portage == Gentoo.
>
> No no, I'm saying that at present Portage is one of Gentoo's most
> severe limiting factors.
In which case your Paludis fork of Gentoo will take off like a scalded cat,
and the world will come racing to your door begging for your Mk II version of
Gentoo. Go for it, the GPL ensures that you have nothing to lose. Others have
done it with varying degrees of success. Kororaa and Sabayon come to mind
immediatly, and I seem to remember a very early fork which foundered pretty
quickly.
I have been using Gentoo for many years, since the 1.2 release anyway.
For me, what separates Gentoo from the others is - in order:
1) The ease of updating the file-set and installing new packages. Say what you
like against it, Portage does what it was designed to do for the user very
effectively. ok the tree breaks occasionally, but to err is human, and I have
no difficulty accepting that fact;
2) The superb quality of the documentation. By and large, it's well written
and actually understandable, and that's a rarity in this field of endeavour;
3) The IRC channels and the support fora are second to none for getting a
quick answer to the current question.
Without doubt, while Portage may not equate to Gentoo, it is the single
feature which has branded Gentoo as being what it is.
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Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-23 23:28 [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-03-24 2:21 ` Josh Saddler
2007-03-24 2:46 ` Jonathan Adamczewski
2007-03-24 7:28 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-03-24 8:31 ` Alec Warner
2007-03-24 9:06 ` Wernfried Haas
2007-03-24 5:50 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-24 12:54 ` Michael Cummings
2007-03-24 13:30 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-03-24 15:58 ` [gentoo-dev] YA_non-technical post about development (was Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis) Steve Long
2007-03-24 16:06 ` [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis Grant Goodyear
2007-03-24 16:33 ` Grant Goodyear
[not found] ` <4605523F.8070002@gentoo.org>
2007-03-24 16:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-24 16:51 ` Grant Goodyear
2007-03-24 20:08 ` Robert Buchholz
2007-03-24 19:25 ` Luca Barbato
2007-03-24 19:52 ` Alec Warner
2007-03-24 20:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-24 23:00 ` Luca Barbato
2007-03-24 16:46 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-03-24 16:48 ` Mike Kelly
2007-03-24 17:10 ` Mike Doty
2007-03-24 12:02 ` Anant Narayanan
2007-03-24 17:19 ` Matthias Langer
2007-03-25 14:40 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-25 14:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-25 14:58 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-25 15:34 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-03-25 15:54 ` Andrew Gaffney
2007-03-25 17:05 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-03-25 18:03 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-25 18:28 ` Michael Krelin
2007-03-27 19:19 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-27 20:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-28 13:08 ` Paul de Vrieze
2007-03-28 19:49 ` Anant Narayanan
2007-03-29 8:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-29 17:16 ` Anant Narayanan
2007-03-29 17:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-29 20:47 ` Thomas Rösner
2007-03-29 21:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 7:49 ` Thomas Rösner
2007-03-30 12:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-29 21:37 ` Anant Narayanan
2007-03-30 0:58 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-03-30 2:55 ` Anant Narayanan
2007-03-30 3:22 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-03-30 4:40 ` Anant Narayanan
2007-03-30 6:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2007-03-30 3:14 ` Alec Warner
2007-03-30 12:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 15:07 ` Andrej Kacian
2007-03-30 20:13 ` Roy Marples
2007-03-30 20:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 21:13 ` Christopher Sawtell [this message]
2007-03-30 21:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-31 2:24 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-03-30 21:41 ` Danny van Dyk
2007-03-31 2:26 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-03-31 2:53 ` Christopher Sawtell
2007-03-31 3:31 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-03-31 22:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-03-31 22:51 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-04-01 1:09 ` Christopher Sawtell
2007-04-02 9:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-03-31 2:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Roy Marples
2007-03-29 18:57 ` Ned Ludd
2007-03-29 19:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-29 19:25 ` Ned Ludd
2007-03-29 20:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-29 20:33 ` Ned Ludd
2007-03-29 21:00 ` Stephen Bennett
2007-03-29 21:03 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2007-03-29 21:41 ` Ned Ludd
2007-03-30 9:07 ` Brian Harring
2007-03-30 13:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 18:04 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-30 18:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 18:50 ` Homer Parker
2007-03-30 18:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 20:41 ` Michael Krelin
2007-03-30 20:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 21:53 ` Michael Krelin
2007-03-31 22:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-03-31 23:16 ` Michael Krelin
2007-03-30 20:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Larry Lines
2007-03-30 20:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 20:51 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-30 21:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-31 0:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-31 0:45 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-31 1:03 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-31 1:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-30 23:09 ` Anant Narayanan
2007-03-30 23:15 ` Josh Saddler
2007-03-31 0:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-30 18:42 ` Matthias Langer
2007-03-30 19:28 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-03-30 20:54 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-31 5:36 ` Rumen Yotov
2007-03-31 6:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-04-01 11:20 ` Adam Pickett
2007-04-01 13:13 ` Mike Auty
2007-04-01 19:11 ` Duncan
2007-04-01 22:43 ` Mike Auty
2007-04-02 9:15 ` Duncan
2007-03-31 18:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christopher Covington
2007-03-31 18:16 ` Andrej Kacian
2007-03-31 19:24 ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-03-31 19:34 ` Andrej Kacian
2007-03-31 19:39 ` Stephen Bennett
2007-03-31 22:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-03-31 22:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-31 22:53 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-31 22:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2007-04-03 13:55 ` Mike Kelly
2007-04-03 17:10 ` antarus
2007-04-05 8:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-04-01 0:31 ` Jan Kundrát
2007-03-31 22:30 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-03-27 20:17 ` Michael Krelin
2007-03-25 16:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-03-25 18:35 ` Steve Long
2007-03-25 23:41 ` Alec Warner
2007-03-24 19:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Daniel Drake
2007-03-24 21:18 ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-03-24 7:09 ` Luca Barbato
2007-03-24 16:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-03-24 19:53 ` Luca Barbato
2007-03-24 20:28 ` Danny van Dyk
2007-03-24 20:49 ` Luca Barbato
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