From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HVrPR-0002nY-Np for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:47:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l2QFiq7L014000; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:44:52 GMT Received: from adsl.lawson-his.co.uk (adsl1-p193.ras.network-i.net [212.21.123.193]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2QFeq4b007551 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:40:53 GMT Received: from solinari.lawson-his.internal (solinari.lawson-his.internal [192.168.1.200]) by adsl.lawson-his.co.uk (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l2QFdYx5003651 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:39:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:39:02 +0100 From: Richard Brown To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract Message-ID: <20070326163902.6e51965d@solinari.lawson-his.internal> In-Reply-To: <200703251647.31125.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <1174788467.4883.29.camel@bruichladdich> <200703251647.31125.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.8.0 (GTK+ 2.10.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_JwdI4GWXCyQLn_QV7/Upv=J"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Lawson-HIS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Lawson-HIS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Lawson-HIS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MailScanner-From: rbrown@gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: 27b407c5-17b9-4aef-b583-5fc4d97cf44d X-Archives-Hash: 053d74854fff241cc8c077d26e4b46cb --Sig_JwdI4GWXCyQLn_QV7/Upv=J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:47:30 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > i think this whole idea is a moot point anyways ... go visit the > Gentoo Foundation web site and see Chapter 2 Section 5 > -mike > Gentoo is independent > Gentoo will never be reigned by a company nor be dictated by an > organisation.=20 Hi vapier, thanks for pointing this out. Am I wrong to assume from your responses in this thread to ciaranm's "hypothetical" case that the current council have not implemented any policy at the instruction of an external company or organisation? Or under the threat of the withdrawal of services that company/organisation provides to us? I ask because when I was concerned to read this conversation in #gentoo-council: 2007-03-15 15:15 <@wolf31o2|mobile> we're entrusted by certain outside parties to not disclose things that are spoken to us in confidence 2007-03-15 15:18 < tove> wolf31o2|mobile: how are outside parties involved in "our" coc? i don't understand this. can you please elaborate on it? 2007-03-15 15:19 <@wolf31o2|mobile> tove: no, I cannot elaborate, nor do I care to... just realize that Gentoo has responsibilities to outside parties that provide services and goods to Gentoo... we have relationships that we would like to maintain... and that's about all I can say (or have time to say... I am at work) I certainly inferred that the council had been told do "something" or "outside parties that provide services and goods to Gentoo" would cease to "maintain" that relationship. While there is some ambiguity in what wolf31o2 said, it certainly doesn't read to me that this is a preemptive measure, especially as the first line references already having been told something in confidence. I admit I haven't asked wolf31o2 about this, but then he implied he was forbidden from discussing it further. Perhaps you have not been so constrained by an outside organisation? I'm unsure of what the procedure is for quoting irclogs in a mail is really, but you'll find about 5 minutes either side of that conversation here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~rbrown/gentoo-council.log Regards, --=20 Richard Brown --Sig_JwdI4GWXCyQLn_QV7/Upv=J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGB+kWacGkxMQdVFQRAiCBAJ9ItrLNoLT7xTSZMaemJOtpVdj2LACfepHW MsmSBvGniU5X+PUdEcdNEfQ= =oRIc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_JwdI4GWXCyQLn_QV7/Upv=J-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list