On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:47:30 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: > i think this whole idea is a moot point anyways ... go visit the > Gentoo Foundation web site and see Chapter 2 Section 5 > -mike > Gentoo is independent > Gentoo will never be reigned by a company nor be dictated by an > organisation. Hi vapier, thanks for pointing this out. Am I wrong to assume from your responses in this thread to ciaranm's "hypothetical" case that the current council have not implemented any policy at the instruction of an external company or organisation? Or under the threat of the withdrawal of services that company/organisation provides to us? I ask because when I was concerned to read this conversation in #gentoo-council: 2007-03-15 15:15 <@wolf31o2|mobile> we're entrusted by certain outside parties to not disclose things that are spoken to us in confidence 2007-03-15 15:18 < tove> wolf31o2|mobile: how are outside parties involved in "our" coc? i don't understand this. can you please elaborate on it? 2007-03-15 15:19 <@wolf31o2|mobile> tove: no, I cannot elaborate, nor do I care to... just realize that Gentoo has responsibilities to outside parties that provide services and goods to Gentoo... we have relationships that we would like to maintain... and that's about all I can say (or have time to say... I am at work) I certainly inferred that the council had been told do "something" or "outside parties that provide services and goods to Gentoo" would cease to "maintain" that relationship. While there is some ambiguity in what wolf31o2 said, it certainly doesn't read to me that this is a preemptive measure, especially as the first line references already having been told something in confidence. I admit I haven't asked wolf31o2 about this, but then he implied he was forbidden from discussing it further. Perhaps you have not been so constrained by an outside organisation? I'm unsure of what the procedure is for quoting irclogs in a mail is really, but you'll find about 5 minutes either side of that conversation here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~rbrown/gentoo-council.log Regards, -- Richard Brown