From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Gvqfy-0007UN-1o for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:43:14 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kBH7gOlY009354; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:42:24 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBH7eWQJ017341 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:40:32 GMT Received: from opteron246.home.net (X164042.ppp.dion.ne.jp [210.234.164.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FBC64857 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 07:40:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Jason Stubbs Organization: Gentoo Foundation To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on system packages Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:41:40 +0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <20061210011117.36672693@blashyrk> <200612171510.57159.jstubbs@gentoo.org> <20061217070429.126d8364@snowdrop> In-Reply-To: <20061217070429.126d8364@snowdrop> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612171641.40343.jstubbs@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: a95144ce-070a-4acf-b2e5-abc8fc7b8efa X-Archives-Hash: c33424c2f837061c69ee60cc3ded7959 On Sunday 17 December 2006 16:04, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:10:57 +0900 Jason Stubbs > wrote: > | I've tried to be objective here so if my viewpoint isn't obvious I'll > | state it outright. I think all packages should depend on every > | package that they need to build and/or run. Whether this is done > | explicitly or with meta-packages, I don't really care. The only > | reason for not being explicit with deps is to cater for old sloppy > | versions of portage. Unless there are other reasons not stated here? > > If you mandate that, any package using autotools will need around fifty > new entries in DEPEND. There's ways to manage this complexity, such as putting the dependencies into autotools' RDEPEND (if it can be considered correct) or by using meta-packages. However, your point is against requiring that packages _must_ specify all system dependencies. While I personally believe that packages should specify all dependencies, what I'm arguing against is requiring that packages _must not_ specify any system dependencies. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list