From: Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on system packages
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:44:44 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061216194444.57f6d09f@tycho.dirtyepic.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 45849CFF.6080002@gentoo.org
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Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Hrm, I thought I wrote about this a while ago but I don't see it on
> archives.g.o so lets try again.
>
> > If your package is 'not important' meaning it will never be in
> > 'system' for any profile, you should not depend on anything in
> > 'system', as
> stuff in system should already be installed in a given (sane)
> configuration.
> >
> > If your package may be in 'system' in a given profile, you need to
> ensure your package builds in the proper order, with regards to other
> system packages. The classic example is zlib; if you need zlib to
> uncompress something, then you should put zlib in the deps; that way
> when someone is building say, a stage1, your package will build after
> zlib, instead of before it.
> >
> > You have to be careful in deciding what to specify, as doing
> > things
> incorrectly in this case can often cause dependency loops which are
> sometimes fun to debug; perl and openssl were infamous back in the
> day for this.
> >
> > Enterprising users would specify the 'doc' useflag. openssl
> > requires
> perl to generate its docs and perl requires openssl for some
> encryption stuff. Users would then complain about perl or openssl
> not building, or portage getting really pissed at them; the solution
> being to build openssl twice, once with USE="-doc" and then build
> perl, and then rebuild openssl with USE="doc". This certainly wasn't
> the only case where this occurred (see ML thread about shadow and
> it's dep on some other package I can't remember, although that was a
> while back as well).
> >
> > In conclusion, you need domain knowledge of system packages and
> portage behavior to make good choices here ;)
>
> Wow that pasted nastily; hopefully it shows up ok ;)
>
> In any case I'm sure there are some other exceptions but these are
> the main ones.
Cool, that's exactly what I was looking for.
thanks ;d
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-12-10 1:11 [gentoo-dev] Dependencies on sys-apps/portage Stephen Bennett
2006-12-10 1:33 ` [gentoo-dev] Dependencies on system packages Stephen Bennett
2006-12-10 2:22 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2006-12-10 2:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-12-10 12:33 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2006-12-10 2:50 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-12-11 11:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-12-11 11:35 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-12-11 11:45 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-12-11 13:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-12-16 18:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2006-12-16 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-12-16 20:21 ` Doug Goldstein
2006-12-16 23:36 ` Mike Doty
2006-12-17 7:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-12-17 7:02 ` Alec Warner
2006-12-16 20:51 ` Ryan Hill
2006-12-17 1:25 ` Ryan Hill
2006-12-17 1:27 ` Alec Warner
2006-12-17 1:44 ` Ryan Hill [this message]
2006-12-18 7:33 ` Steve Long
2006-12-17 6:10 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-12-17 7:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-12-17 7:41 ` Jason Stubbs
2006-12-17 7:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-12-18 7:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-12-18 8:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-12-20 4:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-12-20 10:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-12-29 15:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-12-29 18:01 ` Alec Warner
2007-01-01 9:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-01-01 13:49 ` Robert Buchholz
2007-01-01 22:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-01-02 5:16 ` Robert Buchholz
2007-01-03 21:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-01-04 3:51 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: metadatabase (was: Dependencies on system packages) Ryan Hill
2007-01-04 10:45 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: metadatabase Robert Buchholz
2007-01-05 1:12 ` Ryan Hill
2007-01-06 17:30 ` Steve Long
2007-01-06 17:29 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: metadatabase (was: Dependencies on system packages) Steve Long
2007-01-04 11:08 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dependencies on system packages Robert Buchholz
2007-01-06 17:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-12-17 8:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2006-12-17 8:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-12-18 7:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-12-10 16:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Lars Strojny
2006-12-10 8:39 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Dependencies on sys-apps/portage Christian Faulhammer
2006-12-12 2:12 ` Stephen Bennett
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