From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GhTRq-0002Db-JZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:05:16 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kA7G49tR001575; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 16:04:09 GMT Received: from HOUMAIL002.corp.halliburton.com (houmail002.halliburton.com [34.254.16.14]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kA7G1lJT031090 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 16:01:48 GMT Received: from HOUEXGR003.corp.halliburton.com (houexgr003.corp.halliburton.com [34.224.32.249]) by HOUMAIL002.corp.halliburton.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kA7FwZ53029498 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:04:34 -0600 Received: from HOUEXCH079.corp.halliburton.com ([34.224.34.119]) by HOUEXGR003.corp.halliburton.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:00:21 -0600 Received: from localhost ([34.224.38.205]) by HOUEXCH079.corp.halliburton.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:00:18 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:00:49 -0600 From: Grant Goodyear To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November Message-ID: <20061107160048.GB21817@feynman.corp.halliburton.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20061101134037.6F126649AC@smtp.gentoo.org> <200611061720.50442.vapier@gentoo.org> <20061106223839.GA6332@gentoo.org> <200611061748.34810.vapier@gentoo.org> <45502DEB.20404@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45502DEB.20404@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-10-09) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2006 16:00:18.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[D220F670:01C70285] X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlx=0 adultscore=0 adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0610180000 definitions=main-0611060054 X-Archives-Salt: 0b3babae-a79f-4e4d-83ed-49aa77df1409 X-Archives-Hash: e9c68df626de2a9caef42b4827c305f3 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lance Albertson wrote: [Tue Nov 07 2006, 12:55:39AM CST] > Personally, after skimming through this thread, I'd say leave it as is > and stick with Kurt's decision. Our developers clearly have nothing > better to do than rant on about something as trivial as this. I > especially didn't like the "lets take this to the council first" > approach. I'm with genone on the "I guess people can complain to the > council every time emerge output changes" crap. I can't believe what I > read on here... >=20 > People, this whole thread is silly and a disgrace to our user base to > even read. I'm half tempted to submit iggy's vote-devs-off-the-island > GLEP :P (Thanks SpankY for reminding me about that). With all due respect, I disagree. My recollection was that the SPF discussion was held well over a year ago, on a list that isn't archived, so the rationale for using SPF isn't available for many of the devs who have started raising questions about it. Kurt's reply to those devs was not particularly helpful. (My suspicion is that Kurt figures that he's been through all of these arguments before, and doesn't want to rehash them yet again, but that misses the fact that many of our current devs not only weren't part of that earlier discussion, but they have no access to it, either.) Your reply was very helpful, but between Kurt's closing of the bug and your response on -dev it appeared that infra was essentially saying "We know best, we're not changing how we do things, and we don't want to talk about it". If that appearance were, in fact, the reality, then appealing to the Council would seem to be perfectly reasonable. -g2boojum- --=20 Grant Goodyear=09 Gentoo Developer g2boojum@gentoo.org http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFUK2wptxxUuD2W3YRAkzAAJ4k09vKCWVBI8iVAq0DBgm8UMGEJgCffVV4 LdrrHmC0tEQTfFK3dsuSzi8= =i5Ne -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list