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* [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
@ 2006-09-03  1:29 Alec Warner
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From: Alec Warner @ 2006-09-03  1:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

5 min ago	gentoo	
Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/gkrellm-alltraxclock/ (5
files in 2 dirs):
removing x11-plugins/gkrellm-alltraxclock for bug # 62373

This package hadn't been touched since 2002 and didn't compile

#	
6 min ago	gentoo	
Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/net-misc/bk2site/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
Removing bk2site for bug # 67352

Needed porting to webapp.eclass, merges to /home/bk2site/ :P

#	
9 min ago	gentoo	
Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/net-libs/libical-moz/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
Removing net-libs/libical-moz for bug # 123016

dead upstream, broken tarball.

#	
12 min ago	gentoo	
Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/app-admin/runset/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
Removing app-admin/runset for bug # 142454

Compilation failure.

#	
13 min ago	gentoo	
Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/www-client/skipstone/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
Removing skipstone for bug # 138287

Requested by Maintainer

#	
24 min ago	gentoo	
Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/media-libs/openvrml/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
removing media-libs/openvrml for bug # 137775

Multiple compilation failure and gcc issues.

#	
24 min ago	gentoo	
Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/net-news/rol/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
Removing net-news/rol for bug # 120920

Dead upstream, broken 0.3 versions

#	
25 min ago	gentoo	
Commit by antarus :: gentoo-x86/media-video/mvideo/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
Removing mvideo for bug # 85763

Broken C# code, no one bothered to fix it.
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* [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
@ 2006-09-24 19:26 Christian Heim
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From: Christian Heim @ 2006-09-24 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw
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# Christian Heim <phreak@gentoo.org> (24 Sep 2006)
# masked app-crypt/hashsum for treecleaners, bug(s) 148530
# Pending Removal Oct 22th
app-crypt/hashsum

Masked as requested by Hanno Boeck <hanno@gentoo.org>.

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Your friendly treecleaner/mobile/kernel/vserver/openvz monkey

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* [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
@ 2006-09-27 17:25 Christian Heim
  2006-09-28  2:23 ` Drake Wyrm
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Christian Heim @ 2006-09-27 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw
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# Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (27 Aug 2006)
# Masking net-ftp/jftpgw for treecleaners and bug(s) # 142753
# Sept 27th for removal
net-ftp/jftpgw

Punted.

# Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (27 Aug 2006)
# Masking dev-libs/libhoard for treecleaners and bug(s) # 99473
# Sept 27th for removal
dev-libs/libhoard

Punted.

# Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (27 Aug 2006)
# Masking app-misc/emelfm2 for treecleaners and bug(s) # 90476
# Sept 27th for removal
app-misc/emelfm2

Punted.

# Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (27 Aug 2006)
# Masking media-radio/xlog for treecleaners and bug(s) # 88580
# Sept 27th for removal
media-radio/xlog

Punted.

# Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (27 Aug 2006)
# Masking dev-lang/io-vm for treecleaners and bug(s) # 87785
# Sept 27th for removal
dev-lang/io-vm

Punted.

# Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (26 Aug 2006)
# Masking dev-lang/sather for treecleaners and bug(s) # 79391
# Sept 26th for removal
dev-lang/sather

Punted.

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-09-27 17:25 Christian Heim
@ 2006-09-28  2:23 ` Drake Wyrm
  2006-09-28  9:04   ` Christian Heim
  2006-09-28 12:40   ` Alec Warner
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Drake Wyrm @ 2006-09-28  2:23 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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Christian Heim <phreak@gentoo.org> wrote:
 
> # Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (27 Aug 2006)
> # Masking media-radio/xlog for treecleaners and bug(s) # 88580
> # Sept 27th for removal
> media-radio/xlog
> 
> Punted.

So, why was this one punted, anyway? The bug was fixed in the new
version, and an updated ebuild was submitted?

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Kusanagi: I understand the concept, but I've never seen it in action.
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-09-28  2:23 ` Drake Wyrm
@ 2006-09-28  9:04   ` Christian Heim
  2006-09-28 12:40   ` Alec Warner
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Christian Heim @ 2006-09-28  9:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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On Thursday, 28. September. 2006 04:23, Drake Wyrm wrote:
> Christian Heim <phreak@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > # Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (27 Aug 2006)
> > # Masking media-radio/xlog for treecleaners and bug(s) # 88580
> > # Sept 27th for removal
> > media-radio/xlog
> >
> > Punted.
>
> So, why was this one punted, anyway? The bug was fixed in the new
> version, and an updated ebuild was submitted?

As Jakub pointed out in #88580 
(https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88580), killsoft retired and no one 
stepped up to maintain this package. As the package _currently_ in portage is 
completely broken, and has no maintainer, current guideline is to either find 
a new maintainer or *remove* it from the tree.

As no one stepped up in maintaining this package, it got punted.

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-09-28  2:23 ` Drake Wyrm
  2006-09-28  9:04   ` Christian Heim
@ 2006-09-28 12:40   ` Alec Warner
  2006-09-28 13:35     ` Mark Stier
  2006-09-28 13:47     ` Andrew Gaffney
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Alec Warner @ 2006-09-28 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

Drake Wyrm wrote:
> Christian Heim <phreak@gentoo.org> wrote:
>  
>> # Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (27 Aug 2006)
>> # Masking media-radio/xlog for treecleaners and bug(s) # 88580
>> # Sept 27th for removal
>> media-radio/xlog
>>
>> Punted.
> 
> So, why was this one punted, anyway? The bug was fixed in the new
> version, and an updated ebuild was submitted?
> 

Fixing an open bug is up to the Treecleaning dev in question.  I've been 
talking to some people on how exactly to handle this.  I don't want to 
bump random packages and not add myself as maintainer; usually this 
amounts to the same package having a bug assigned to maintainer-needed 
or treecleaners in a couple of months (either for another bump; or some 
other reason).  However if I were to take ownership of every maintainer 
needed package that has an ebuild I'd soon be the proud owner of about 
100 packages that I don't care about.

The masking and the e-mails and the bug filings are done for a reason; a 
loud and clear "this bug needs a maintainer or it's getting axed."  Some 
stuff gets fixed (aka pornview) most of it gets punted instead.

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-09-28 12:40   ` Alec Warner
@ 2006-09-28 13:35     ` Mark Stier
  2006-09-28 13:43       ` Mike Pagano
  2006-09-28 13:54       ` Jakub Moc
  2006-09-28 13:47     ` Andrew Gaffney
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Mark Stier @ 2006-09-28 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

How about entering the removed ebuilds into bugzilla under an adequate section?
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-09-28 13:35     ` Mark Stier
@ 2006-09-28 13:43       ` Mike Pagano
  2006-09-28 13:54       ` Jakub Moc
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Mike Pagano @ 2006-09-28 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

On 9/28/06, Mark Stier <markstier@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about entering the removed ebuilds into bugzilla under an adequate section?
> --
> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>

In the event of tree booting, you have the option to maintain the
ebuild in an overlay such as sunrise[1]. Or seeking out some
interested party to do so for you.


[1]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/sunrise/
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-09-28 12:40   ` Alec Warner
  2006-09-28 13:35     ` Mark Stier
@ 2006-09-28 13:47     ` Andrew Gaffney
  2006-09-28 16:42       ` Wolf Giesen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Gaffney @ 2006-09-28 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

Alec Warner wrote:
> stuff gets fixed (aka pornview)

Why doesn't this surprise me? :)

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-09-28 13:35     ` Mark Stier
  2006-09-28 13:43       ` Mike Pagano
@ 2006-09-28 13:54       ` Jakub Moc
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jakub Moc @ 2006-09-28 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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Mark Stier wrote:
> How about entering the removed ebuilds into bugzilla under an adequate
> section?

Uhm...

http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/

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* [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-09-28 13:47     ` Andrew Gaffney
@ 2006-09-28 16:42       ` Wolf Giesen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Wolf Giesen @ 2006-09-28 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

>> stuff gets fixed (aka pornview)
> Why doesn't this surprise me? :)

Heh.

If you actually tried it, though, you'd see that's it's a nice
application and the pr0n thingy is just a joke .-)
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* [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
@ 2006-10-04 18:33 Steve Dibb
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From: Steve Dibb @ 2006-10-04 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw
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# Steve Dibb <beandog@gentoo.org> (04 Sep 2006)
# lve and klvemkdvd are unmaintained, see bug #145200
# masked before being punted (treecleaner)
media-video/lve
media-video/klvemkdvd

Punted
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* [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
@ 2006-11-04 19:02 Christian Heim
  2006-11-04 19:58 ` Christian Heim
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Christian Heim @ 2006-11-04 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw
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#149420 - net-mail/quotient
 o Pending Removal Oct 28th 2006
 o requested by Marien Zwart on behalf of python

#148530 - app-crypt/hashsum
 o Pending Removal Oct 22th 2006
 o requested by Hanno Boeck as primary maintainer

#114639 - net-misc/mico
 o Pending Removal Oct 16th 2006
 o requested by Doug Goldstein on behalf of treecleaner

#103143 - x11-libs/buffy
 o Pending Removal Oct 29th 2006
 o requested by Jakub Moc on behalf of treecleaner

#62182 - net-im/jabberoo
 o Pending Removal Nov 1st 2006
 o requested by Alec Warner on behalf of treecleaner

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals
  2006-11-04 19:02 [gentoo-dev] treecleaner removals Christian Heim
@ 2006-11-04 19:58 ` Christian Heim
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From: Christian Heim @ 2006-11-04 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw
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#129874 - www-client/amaya
 o requested by Stefan Cornelius on behalf of security
 o p.masked since 30th April 2006

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* [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] removals
@ 2006-11-30  2:40 Steve Dibb
  2006-11-30  6:04 ` Drake Wyrm
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Steve Dibb @ 2006-11-30  2:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

# Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> (23 Oct 2006)
# Masked pending removal on Nov 23. Use games-fps/tremulous instead.
games-fps/quake3-tremulous

# Doug Goldstein <cardoe@gentoo.org> (25 Oct 2006)
# Masked pending removal on 25 Nov 2006. See bug #134621
net-www/netscape-plugger

# Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> (26 Oct 2006)
# Only works on 2.4, masked for removal
x11-drivers/kyro-drivers

# Michael Sterrett <mr_bones_@gentoo.org> (29 Oct 2006)
# Masked pending removal on 2006-11-28.
# Doesn't work with stratagus-2.1 which is the only version in portage
# see http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110542
games-strategy/magnant

# David Shakaryan <omp@gentoo.org> (29 Oct 2006)
# Masking x11-misc/commonbox-utils as upstream is dead
# and many alternative *box configuration tools exist.
# Pending removal on 29 Nov 2006.
x11-misc/commonbox-utils

# Michael Sterrett <mr_bones_@gentoo.org> (29 Oct 2006)
# Masked pending removal on 2006-11-28.
# Doesn't work with latest build environment and unused
# by any package in portage.
# see http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136513
media-libs/allegttf

# Michael Sterrett <mr_bones_@gentoo.org> (29 Oct 2006)
# Masked pending removal on 2006-11-28.
# Doesn't work with latest libvorbis and occasionally segfaults
# even with the work-around for the libvorbis issue.  Binary game
# so there's not much to do about it either.
# see http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150431
games-action/phobiaiii

# Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (19 Oct 2006)
# Masked app-editors/xwpe for treecleaners, bug # 124298
app-editors/xwpe

# Christian Heim <phreak@gentoo.org> (5 Oct 2006)
# masking sys-apps/sal-client for treecleaners, bug(s) 67364
# Pending removal Nov 5th. Please use sys-process/audit instead!
sys-apps/sal-client

# Michael Sterrett <mr_bones_@gentoo.org> (05 Oct 2006)
# Masked pending removal on Oct 30. No longer developed upstream
# and doesn't build.  Will be eventually replaced by qmc2.
games-emulation/qmamecat

# Matthias Schwarzott <zzam@gentoo.org> (13 Sep 2006)
# Masked for removal. It has open gcc-4 Bug (#146692),
# does unconditionally depend on virtual/x11,
# and upstream has done no newer releases.
# Sources seem to be tarred in Oct 1999.
media-video/mpeg-movie

# Luis Medinas <metalgod@gentoo.org> (08 Jul 2006)
# Dead upstream it needs to be removed.
# There's lot's of another applications like this.
app-cdr/simplecdrx

# Marcelo Goes <vanquirius@gentoo.org> (07 Jul 2006)
# Pending removal
# Please migrate to net-wireless/aircrack-ng
net-wireless/aircrack

# Mark Loeser <halcy0n@gentoo.org> (29 May 2006)
# Masked pending removal.  Dead upstream, doesn't compile with gcc-3.4
# bug #120303
media-libs/nurbs++

# <hollow@gentoo> (20 Apr 2006)
# Upstream dead; obsoleted by sys-apps/lomoco
sys-apps/lmctl

# Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org> (28 Oct 2006)
# Mask the following packages for removal by treecleaners:
# app-laptop/xpmumon for bug(s) 153198, 112675, 117782
# media-gfx/radiance for bug(s) 106158, 112675
# net-mail/cvm-vmailmgr for bug(s) 113245
# app-cdr/cdrx for bug(s) 108072
# app-emacs/liece for bug(s) 152911, use riece
# net-wireless/aircrack for bug(s) 152806 Use aircrack-ng
# net-misc/aesop for bug(s) 152505
# app-crypt/outguess for bug(s) 143897
# dev-util/sashxb for bug(s) 138848
# app-editors/cute for bug(s) 128270, 117482
# x11-plugins/gkrellm-newsticker for bug(s) 102695
# app-misc/pms for bug(s) 102314
# app-misc/largorecipes for bug(s) 101536
# x11-plugins/gkrellm-giFT for bug(s) 97869
# media-video/winki for bug(s) 94902
# net-misc/qadsl for bug(s) 94295
app-laptop/xpmumon
media-gfx/radiance
net-mail/cvm-vmailmgr
app-cdr/cdrx
app-emacs/liece
net-wireless/aircrack
net-misc/aesop
app-crypt/outguess
dev-util/sashxb
app-editors/cute
x11-plugins/gkrellm-newsticker
app-misc/pms
app-misc/largorecipes
media-video/winki
x11-plugins/gkrellm-giFT
net-misc/qadsl

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* [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] removals
@ 2006-11-30  3:03 Steve Dibb
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From: Steve Dibb @ 2006-11-30  3:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

games-server/hlstats - removed per games herd request

media-libs/jpeg-mmx - masked by vapier
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] removals
  2006-11-30  2:40 Steve Dibb
@ 2006-11-30  6:04 ` Drake Wyrm
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Drake Wyrm @ 2006-11-30  6:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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Steve Dibb <beandog@gentoo.org> wrote:
<snip>
> # Marcelo Goes <vanquirius@gentoo.org> (07 Jul 2006)
> # Pending removal
> # Please migrate to net-wireless/aircrack-ng
> net-wireless/aircrack
<snip>
> # net-wireless/aircrack for bug(s) 152806 Use aircrack-ng
<snip>
> net-wireless/aircrack
<snip>

I'm sure it doesn't truly matter in the least bit, but you have a dupe
in there.

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