From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GXJR4-0008Pk-GT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:22:26 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9AFKb8a012573; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:20:37 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9AFHBk0003432 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:17:12 GMT Received: from gravity.twi-31o2.org (ZB100016.ppp.dion.ne.jp [219.125.100.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8E864169 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:17:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Jason Stubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:20:33 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <1160056361.6289.17.camel@party.homenetwork> <452ACDA1.2020803@gentoo.org> <200610092345.34073.karimarie@mail.rit.edu> In-Reply-To: <200610092345.34073.karimarie@mail.rit.edu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610120020.33970.jstubbs@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 79134cac-2955-4bc5-bcca-2882d270cf78 X-Archives-Hash: 97cab89a770fc6799b58f9a58b0a4ba3 On Tuesday 10 October 2006 03:45, Kari Hazzard wrote: After writing the last response, another thought came to mind that I figured I should post - and should probably be set out in a "user's guide to posting on dev mailing lists". I had the thought that users likely feel that it's okay to repeatedly post arguments for their point of view because they often see developers doing it. There is a very obvious parallel between users and developers in these threads in that both are lazy and thus want things done their own way in order to make their lives easier. The important difference is that (usually :/) at least some of the developers of each point of view are willing to implement the whole lot themselves. What they are arguing about is how much effort they see will be needed in the long term. Even in the case where a developer with a conflicting point of view is not willing to do the work now, the developer will argue for the point of view as they can see themselves having to redo it later on anyway. In the open source world, the driving theme is that there is often something good enough to not require reinventing the wheel but, in the end, "if you want a job done right, you've got to do it yourself." -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list