On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:40:53 -0400 Kari Hazzard wrote: | "If the tool forces the user to do things a particular way, then the | tool is working against, rather than for, the user. That doesn't mean that the user is using the right tool. If you're trying to nail something to a wall, complaining because your bicycle can't do it doesn't mean the bicycle is somehow defective. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : http://ciaranm.org/ as-needed is broken : http://ciaranm.org/show_post.pl?post_id=13