Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users

[Dominique Michel <dominique.michel@citycable.ch>]

Le Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:06:41 -0400,
Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org> a écrit :

> On Fri, 2006-10-06 at 09:39 +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > Steev Klimaszewski wrote:
> > > No... but didn't one download and burn that CD that is being used for
> > > the _networkless_ install?  One could also download the stage needed,
> > > slap it on a usb key, and viola!  Of course, the other option, is to use
> > > that crazy installer option "Networkless" - I could be wrong, but I do
> > > believe that is the option I would choose.  (Actually I did this just
> > > the other day because of the issues I am having at home with my
> > > networking.  And it worked splendidly on a P2 366 - so kudos to the
> > > releng team)
> > 
> > The thing is, they guy does not want to use the installer. I don't
> > remember there being a way to just extract the stages/packages manually
> > either.
> 
> OK.  I *said* that I was writing a document on this, but people seem to
> just want to keep on postulating and talking about complete
> inaccuracies.
> 
> Yes, you can install using portions of the installer from the command
> line (not ncurses).  Unfortunately, one component necessary for a
> complete install from the command line (installing a kernel) was not
> added until after 2006.1 shipped, so you cannot do a completely
> networkless install with only the LiveCD/LiveDVD.

I will just say at this have to be fixed. From the website: "The Gentoo 2006.1
Handbook is an effort to centralize documentation into a coherent handbook. It
contains the networkless installation instructions for the 2006.1 release "
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=install#doc_chap2

>From this handbook: "This document covers the installation using a Gentoo Linux
Installation CD, a bootable CD that contains everything you need to get Gentoo
Linux up and running."
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=1

When an user or a potential user read it and want to do a networkless install,
it will just use the Live CD install, and just get in trouble. It is even worse
when many Linux magazines will have this CD. And you cannot argue at it is just
to use catalyst or to burn a CD from a stage 3, when the doc say "a bootable CD
that contains everything you need to get Gentoo Linux up and running."


> 
> > At this point though I think using the installer is reasonable enough.
> 
> I would agree there.
> 
 
I agree too, but only if it work, and it doesn't completely work for a
networless installation.

-- 
Dominique Michel

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