From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GWK5O-0002Xq-Dh for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:51:58 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k97Lp3At010588; Sat, 7 Oct 2006 21:51:04 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k97Ln9Sm032204 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2006 21:49:10 GMT Received: from phi.witten.lan (p83.129.25.155.tisdip.tiscali.de [83.129.25.155]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20E9645DE for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2006 21:49:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Danny van Dyk Organization: Gentoo To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 00:01:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20061007211914.GA9881@woodpecker.gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20061007211914.GA9881@woodpecker.gentoo.org> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?57Z3foFdBj=3BKdmU=5EFM=2Eec=5C4=7BQf/F6=25ePh=5C=5DM=5EaXPX*=5D?= =?utf-8?q?J5S=7CM=7E+vR=3F=24iW=5Cn44=5E2sguPTOtw=0A=09fe+7gKTm*!OXGQPYqML?= =?utf-8?q?=7CL1ezSI3-=27E=25zxZigvAK?=>3$?~'4IPBoi\H2)pV6U(26V@ =?utf-8?q?jq=7CAIp=0A=09yY?=>'!D}EOi=Q+-|CIh-d4riWfZZ">G.Rj!}78kX$8Zt0:epNWTo[{_/zJb< =?utf-8?q?Ud=2Eon=7EprEW*=0A=09tIvqI=7B+e=3AgMC?= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200610080001.04921.kugelfang@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 569b0cdf-d5e9-46ae-88cf-242b87dc2aef X-Archives-Hash: 0379903fd6cc233bb8c65c96311254be Hi Tim, Am Samstag, 7. Oktober 2006 23:19 schrieb Tim Yamin: > I'm afraid that I find that my position with Gentoo is no longer > tenable. Over the past year and especially over the past few months > the ability to keep Gentoo a coherent and smooth environment has been > eroded and hindered at practically every opportunity by bad > decisions, staff, and in some cases, downright incompetence. I'm sorry to see you go, but i cannot agree with you here. More below. > It transpires that from the recent barrage of developers leaving, the > disquiet and increasing lack of congruence of the developer (and to > some extent also the user) communities that something is inherently > wrong. I'm leaving it as an exercise to the reader to explore exactly > what (if anything) is wrong. Honestly, i think you're showing a weak shell here, but that's my personal opinion. QA and council asked you to do something you didn't like to do, and i still don't understand your reasoning. Please think about this decision over a week or so. Kloeri: Please don't file a retirement bug immediately. > Seeing as we have failed to address these challenges over the course > of many months and as a result of continuous recent discussions > (which half the time end up being totally redundant due to > miscommunication) both on -core and on -dev, it is evident that > something is wrong with the core management (or lack thereof, > depending on your point of view). > > I no longer have the commitment or desire to follow the road in > solving the above challenges. I'm not really sure whether there even > is a solution. I'd like to add that I have really enjoyed my time in > the past three years working with Gentoo and helping to contribute to > the then vibrant and dynamic community. As have I while working with you, especially and mainly in release engineering. > Lately however, the "fun" and the motivation just hasn't been there > for the reasons I've outlined above; it's finally taken its toll, and > I believe the time to move onto new projects and ventures has finally > come for me. As longas you stay away from microphones ;-) > I would like to wish all of you the very best, and would like to > thank all of you who have (and haven't) made my time here so > enjoyable. Thank you very much > So long, and thanks for all the fish... I think you oughta know that I'm feeling very depressed :-( Danny, who hopes to see you again next year! -- Danny van Dyk Gentoo/AMD64 Project, Gentoo Scientific Project -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list