From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GVQum-0003gb-5c for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:57:20 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k95AuIvn015417; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:56:18 GMT Received: from MIUMMR0MT09.um.ced.h3g.it ([62.13.171.111]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k95Aqt7Z010423 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:52:56 GMT Received: from c1358217.kevquinn.com (miumgu0vp03.um.ced.h3g.it [10.216.57.163]) by MIUMMR0MT09.um.ced.h3g.it (MOS 3.5.5-GR) with ESMTP id ANM04777; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:53:18 +0200 From: "Kevin F. Quinn" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Message-ID: <20061005125318.6e5eaf7b@c1358217.kevquinn.com> In-Reply-To: <3b09e8e90610040839l6d5397bcxe408eac59e5b29e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20061004070014.843d851d.tcort@gentoo.org> <20061004150217.27b509c3@c1358217.kevquinn.com> <3b09e8e90610040621p62d4a33n559fbaf744e9b4ee@mail.gmail.com> <20061004170640.58196bc0@c1358217.kevquinn.com> <3b09e8e90610040839l6d5397bcxe408eac59e5b29e2@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.4.0 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_K9fT+0ACMSw28e6ZJgWlnt0; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 570a81b8-9db5-4327-9827-dd8100314c81 X-Archives-Hash: 8f6d1d292544da5f95731014cc79591b --Sig_K9fT+0ACMSw28e6ZJgWlnt0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:39:07 -0400 "Thomas Cort" wrote: > On 10/4/06, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 09:21:08 -0400 > > "Thomas Cort" wrote: > > > > > > The "minority" arches like mips, sparc etc seem to get along > > > > quite happily. > > > > > > Not the "minority" arches like m68k, s390, alpha, ... > > > > I haven't seen any significant numbers of complaints. What exactly > > about those arches do you think is a problem? >=20 > The speed at which bugs are resolved is the problem. Keywording/stable > bugs can sit for months and sometimes over a year without being > touched. So? Who is complaining? Open stabilisation bugs are a concern for the relevant arches, not for everyone. Once an arch has actioned a stabilisation bug, they remove themselves from CC, after which they don't care. > Some people think the amount of time some arches lag behind > is acceptable, I don't. The primary reason why arches lag is that we > don't have enough people doing the testing and keywording. >=20 > > You should only raise expectations when you know you can follow > > through, not the other way around. Raising expectations before > > being able to follow through leads to disappointment, which is bad. >=20 > I think that if we implement my suggestions (drastically reducing the > workload), we will be able to meet those expectations. All that will happen if you ditch the minority arches, is that the devs involved will take their work into overlay or possibly leave Gentoo altogether. It won't improve anything for other arches. --=20 Kevin F. Quinn --Sig_K9fT+0ACMSw28e6ZJgWlnt0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFJOQe9G2S8dekcG0RArWPAJ4yzebUkCA3YILJRvu+N2NIO+3TGQCfWMho 9Ba5Q94pJSHB4BLRyBjG/pc= =i/qZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_K9fT+0ACMSw28e6ZJgWlnt0-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list