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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@ciaranm.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 03:36:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060924033621.32c44881@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609211101.41237.vapier@gentoo.org>

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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:01:40 -0400 Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| On Thursday 21 September 2006 10:54, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
| > Yes, I agree with you. For example, take expat. The maintainers have
| > refused to allow both versions to exist simultaneously on a system
| > because it apparently causes more breakage than just breaking every
| > app on your system by removing .so.0.
| 
| that is the exact case portage should be handling for you
| 
| it would go "oh hey, check out libexpat.so.0 ... some things seem to
| want it ... HEY USER, you need to rebuild: xxxxxxxx" ... once all the
| packages still consuming libexpat.so.0 are rebuilt, portage could
| silently trim it from the system
| 
| complicated ?  not really, scanelf can produce all this information
| in an easily digestable format

How would it know what other files are required? For example, if
libexpat.so.0 were to rely upon /usr/share/expat-0/config , how would
the package manager know not to clobber that file? Or are you
suggesting leaving (or reparenting, if you prefer) all a package's
files, not just the .so files?

Or a related question: what proportion of breakages will be fixed
merely by keeping .so files and nothing else around? Will implementing
this prevent enough breakages to make it worthwhile?

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh
Mail                : ciaranm at ciaranm.org
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-24  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-21 10:35 [gentoo-dev] RFC about another *DEPEND variable Alin Nastac
2006-09-21 11:38 ` Luca Barbato
2006-09-21 11:59   ` Brian Harring
2006-09-21 13:52     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 14:04       ` Brian Harring
2006-09-21 14:43         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 15:08           ` Brian Harring
2006-09-23 10:20             ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 13:14               ` Brian Harring
2006-09-23 13:50                 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 13:59                   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 14:30                   ` Brian Harring
2006-09-24  3:31                     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-25 18:16                       ` Brian Harring
2006-09-27  6:24                         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-27  7:54                           ` Brian Harring
2006-09-30 18:01                             ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-30 19:34                               ` Brian Harring
2006-10-02 12:53                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 14:14       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-09-21 14:40         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 14:54           ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-09-21 15:01             ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-24  2:36               ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2006-09-24  3:13                 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 14:56       ` Duncan Coutts
2006-09-21 15:10         ` Simon Stelling
2006-09-21 15:11         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 15:41           ` Duncan Coutts
2006-09-21 18:27             ` Luca Barbato
2006-09-21 21:34               ` Duncan Coutts
2006-09-21 23:25                 ` Luca Barbato
2006-09-23 10:13             ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 10:35               ` Duncan Coutts
2006-09-23 10:52                 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 14:38     ` Alin Nastac
2006-09-21 14:46       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 17:24         ` Alin Nastac
2006-09-21 14:51       ` Brian Harring
2006-09-21 17:15         ` Alin Nastac
2006-09-21 19:51           ` Brian Harring
2006-09-23 10:05           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 14:24             ` Alin Nastac
2006-09-23 14:34               ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-23 14:53                 ` Brian Harring
2006-09-23 15:07                   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-21 12:05   ` Alin Nastac
2006-09-21 13:50 ` Mike Frysinger

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