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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Required Features for $package_manager to Aid... Development!
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 04:05:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060906110529.GB27046@seldon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060906102911.GD25413@gentoo.org>

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On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 10:29:11AM +0000, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
> Hola,
> 
> I've been inspired by the local/global USE flag threads recently
> posted by Doug (Cardoe), and it got me to thinking... I've recently
> joined the pkgcore development effort, and was asked by Brian
> (ferringb) what I'd like to hack on/what my niggles with portage are.
> My personal one is why updates/ and binpkg mangling takes so long in
> portage-$current.  But I'd like to know, what are everyone elses?
> 
> I know that this topic have been rehashed since the dawn of
> time^Wgentoo-dev, but these things get lost, opinions change... and
> since last year, new and viable alternate package managers have
> cropped up.  So, basically I'd like to ask all on this list: - what
> package manager features would make *your* life easier?
> 
> Personally, I'd like to see the following groups of changes happen one
> way or another:
> 
> * Improve QA with/by:
>  - Detecting conflicting USE flags;

That one is on the map for trying to address via eapi=1; intention was 
to resurrect the approach of using a seperate metadata key, and 
extending depset support to include xor so that representing the 
_valid_ use conditional states is possible.

Simple example, if you need mysql or postgres, but not both;
VALID_USE_STATES="^ ( mysql postgres )"

if it's not required to have them enabled, but still need one or the 
other if enabled
VALID_USE_STATES="( || ( mysql postgres ) ^ ( mysql postgres ) )"

Would need to extend depset in this case to support negation of blocks 
also (nand/nor); downside, it gets verbose.

Upshot, it uses extisting syntax folks are familar with; the verbosity 
of it would also go down if/when use groups were implemented thus 
replacing USE_EXPAND (something that needs resurrecting and is another 
bit on the map, although not guranteed to be targeted).

~harring

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-06 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-06 10:29 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Required Features for $package_manager to Aid... Development! Elfyn McBratney
2006-09-06 11:05 ` Brian Harring [this message]
2006-09-07  3:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2006-09-09 13:37   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-09-09 21:17     ` S. Lockwood-Childs
2006-09-09 22:06     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-10  3:57     ` Alec Warner
2006-09-10 14:57       ` Francesco Riosa
2006-09-09 22:05   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-09-09 23:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato

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