[gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis]

I think that cairo, logrotate, openexr, udev and vnc USE flags should be global. These are now local USE flags.

Do you agree to change their globalness?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[Chris White]

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On Thursday 31 August 2006 07:24, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
> I think that cairo, logrotate, openexr, udev and vnc USE flags should be
> global. These are now local USE flags.

Gotta say why along with that.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[Steve Dibb]

Chris White wrote:
> On Thursday 31 August 2006 07:24, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
>   
>> I think that cairo, logrotate, openexr, udev and vnc USE flags should be
>> global. These are now local USE flags.
>>     
>
> Gotta say why along with that.

Local use flags:

cairo: 15
logrotate: 8
openexr: 11
udev: 6
vnc: 6

And the descriptions seem to be pretty much the same in all of them from 
use.local.desc

Steve

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[Simon Stelling]

Steve Dibb wrote:
> And the descriptions seem to be pretty much the same in all of them from
> use.local.desc

I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
shouldn't exist at all because those files add <4kb to the package.

About the udev, there's one package that doesn't share the effect:

sys-apps/pcmciautils:udev - Install as an udev helper instead of a
hotplug helper

Which is different from the other 5 "Enable udev rules file installation".

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[Carsten Lohrke]

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On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:58, Simon Stelling wrote:
> I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
> shouldn't exist at all because those files add <4kb to the package.

Right. Open a bug and cc involved maintainers. This is the way it works - 
maybe slowly, but it does. We see people come and go and no one has the time 
to assure to have read all threads in this list. A bug stays open as long as 
it is relevant.

> About the udev, there's one package that doesn't share the effect:
>
> sys-apps/pcmciautils:udev - Install as an udev helper instead of a
> hotplug helper
>
> Which is different from the other 5 "Enable udev rules file installation".

Two packages. Question is, if there is an argument not to install udev rules.


Carsten

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:58:20 +0200 Simon Stelling <blubb@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
| shouldn't exist at all because those files add <4kb to the package.

No we didn't. It's another file in /etc, which is entirely different
from another file not in /etc.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[Alin Nastac]

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Simon Stelling wrote:
> I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
> shouldn't exist at all because those files add <4kb to the package.
>   
Please look at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/35754 .

I said it once, I'm saying again: squid need this USE flag.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[Grant Goodyear]

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Ciaran McCreesh wrote: [Thu Aug 31 2006, 10:37:21AM CDT]
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:58:20 +0200 Simon Stelling <blubb@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> | I think we agreed at least 3 times on that the logrotate use flag
> | shouldn't exist at all because those files add <4kb to the package.
> 
> No we didn't. It's another file in /etc, which is entirely different
> from another file not in /etc.

My recollection was that the argument against having a logrotate USE
flag that meant "please install a logrotate script" was that it was
unnecessary since the user could just mask out /etc/logrotate.d
instead (using INSTALL_MASK) if those scripts weren't desired.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: Globalness of some USE flags

[arfrever]

Carsten Lohrke wrote [2006-08-31 15:16:31]:
> On Thursday 31 August 2006 16:58, Simon Stelling wrote:
>> About the udev, there's one package that doesn't share the effect:
>>
>> sys-apps/pcmciautils:udev - Install as an udev helper instead of a
>> hotplug helper
>>
>> Which is different from the other 5 "Enable udev rules file installation".
>
> Two packages. Question is, if there is an argument not to install
> udev rules.

udev USE flag is set defaultly in the following files:
# find /usr/portage/profiles/ -name make.defaults -exec grep -l udev {} \;
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/2006.0/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/no-nptl/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/alpha/2006.1/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc32/2006.0/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc32/2006.1/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc64/2006.0/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/sparc/sparc64/2006.1/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc32/2006.0/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc32/2006.1/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/64bit-userland/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/32bit-userland/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.0/multilib/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/64bit-userland/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/32bit-userland/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ppc/ppc64/2006.1/multilib/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1/make.defaults
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/ia64/2006.0/make.defaults

Is this flag there because of "Enable udev rules file installation" or because of "Install as an udev helper instead of a hotplug helper"?

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