Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

["Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@gentoo.org>]

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On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:30:20PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote:
> I'm the current maintainer for xmms and all plugins. As you all know
> xmms is writen over GTK+-1. This toolkit is not supported by the
> upstream like xmms. We have lot's of dead upstream plugins on portage
> and this is a pain to maintain like xmms itself. You might want to look
> at our patchset that contains fixes for 'millions' of bugs.
> We have a few alternatives like audacious, gstreamer based players and
> xine-lib players (did i forget anything ?). The problem is that this
> players doesn't support a few audiotypes or plugins that xmms currently
> does.
> So i'm asking for a solution either remove xmms, move the maintainer for
> anyone who volunteer or the sound herd.
> My plans now is replace xmms for xmms2 (that i would like to take the
> maintainership). Opinions ? Ideas ?
The last time this came up, a few months ago, mentioned in somebodies
blog, I made an effort to look at both bmpx and audacious.

Both used significantly more CPU, and one of them was completely
unusable with the size of my playlist (~24000 items, mostly legal MP3) -
it sucked up ~4Gb of memory, and then the OOM killer smote it.

The plugins I used are xosd, songchange, realrandom - none of which
seemed to be trivially recompilable when I looked, but I do see that at
least one other distro has managed to port xosd.

One thing that XMMS does have going for it compared to the newer GTK2
variants is that it's much more light-weight. I'm not sure if it's just
because of the usage of GTK2 instead of GTK1, but the added size of the
alternatives isn't suitable for the moment.

As noted by other folk, I have no objections with the default changing
away from xmms, to discourage new users, but don't take XMMS away from
those of us already using it without any issues.

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Robin Hugh Johnson
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