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From: "Kevin F. Quinn" <kevquinn@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: mulltiib cruft: /emul
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:42:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060810214203.09eeae80@c1358217.kevquinn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44DB6C32.9010009@gentoo.org>

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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:26:10 -0500
Mike Doty <kingtaco@gentoo.org> wrote:

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> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Olivier Crete wrote:
> >> It was chosen by brad_mssw to match the way it is done on ia64.
> >> And I think we should continue to put the binary
> >> app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-* in /emul/  and that lib32 should be
> >> reserved for properly installed packages using portage whenever we
> >> manage to get portage to support it.
> > 
> > It makes sense that you wouldn't want these binary packages going
> > into /lib32 or /usr/lib32, but /emul seems like an odd choice
> > compared to something like /opt/lib32.

I though exactly this when I saw SpanKY's query.  Having a directory in
'/' is not pretty.

> IIRC, /emul predates FHS acceptance.  also, while they are "binary"
> packages, they arn't in the same catagory as binary-only packages.  We
> distribute them to assist multilib and to overcome problems that
> portage wasn't really designed for.

More generally we have varying approaches to pre-built packages;
app-office/openoffice-bin installs to /usr for example, while
mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-bin and www-client/mozilla-firefox-bin
install to /opt.

In these cases, where they are installed on the same target
architecture as they were built, I think it makes sense to have them
install as if they were built with 'emerge -B' for installation via
'emerge -K' - i.e. in /usr rather than /opt.

x86-built binary packages for x86_64 are not the same, of course.  One
idea that springs to mind immediately is to put them in a
{bin,include,lib...} hierarchy under /usr/<ctarget> (which is also
where the compiler stuff for <ctarget> ends up).  Conceptually at least
(although no doubt problematic in practice) on x86_64 one could use a
x86(_32) cross-compiler to build stuff to ROOT=/usr/${CTARGET}.  Again
in concept a /${CTARGET}/{bin,include,lib...} would exists for
essential boot stuff, althought that's a bit academic.

Just a thought for the pot ;)

-- 
Kevin F. Quinn

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-10 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-08 15:43 [gentoo-dev] mulltiib cruft: /emul Mike Frysinger
2006-08-09 14:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-09 15:50   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-09 17:46     ` Danny van Dyk
2006-08-09 18:00     ` Richard Fish
     [not found]   ` <44DA1FBB.6060307@gentoo.org>
     [not found]     ` <1155228522.6489.97.camel@cocagne.max-t.internal>
2006-08-10 17:17       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-10 17:26         ` Mike Doty
2006-08-10 19:42           ` Kevin F. Quinn [this message]
2006-08-10 20:17             ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-11  4:24               ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-10 22:39           ` Chris Gianelloni
     [not found]       ` <200608101521.37851.vapier@gentoo.org>
2006-08-10 23:32         ` Doug Goldstein
2006-08-11  0:20           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-21 11:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Herbie Hopkins
2006-08-21 14:29   ` Olivier Crête
2006-08-21 17:28     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-21 17:39       ` Olivier Crete
2006-08-21 19:08         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-21 20:30   ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-22 15:17     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-22 22:01       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-24 20:58   ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2006-08-25 12:26     ` Herbie Hopkins
2006-08-25 15:50       ` Chris Gianelloni

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