From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:40:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200608071540.32819.pauldv@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060807131642.GF25236@nibiru.local>
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On Monday 07 August 2006 15:16, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org> schrieb:
>
> <snip>
>
> > > For example: mplayer
> > > It has it's gui-less player and an gtk-based frontend in one package.
> > > We should split this into two packages: mplayer and gmplayer.
> > > The chances to get this done in the upstream *before* some major
> > > distro like gentoo does the split by its own are quite low.
> >
> > We do not split packages for frivolous reasons.
>
> Well, I don't consider reducing complexity "frivolous" ;-o
Which reduction for which complexity? Do you want to bring everyone's systems
to a grinding halt, just because you can't understand the "complexity" of
useflags. Useflags are one of the distinguishing features of gentoo. Now you
opt to do away with them. I do not see the reason. It is also against the
gentoo philosophy of offering software the way upstream provides it.
>
> <snip>
>
> > > Some
> > > people @mplayerhq are quite aeh, unfortunate, about changes in the
> > > build procedure. Maybe you like to have a look at the discussion
> > > about my patches introducing pkg-config utilization.
pkg-config is a broken concept. Libraries themselves should state dependency
information. Pkg-config is a "solution" that introduces at least as many
problems as it solves. Only libtool (esp. old versions) is worse in it's
incomplete use of the linker and the way it encourages broken library
linking.
> That's the right ways. And so gmplayer stuff should be dropped
> completely. If you like, I'll sit down and fix the ebuilds.
First fix your attitude problem, then come with good suggestions stated in a
more friendly way.
Paul
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-03 11:31 [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax Noack, Sebastian
[not found] ` <20060803153407.GA19696@nibiru.local>
2006-08-03 18:38 ` Luca Barbato
[not found] ` <20060807131642.GF25236@nibiru.local>
2006-08-07 13:40 ` Paul de Vrieze [this message]
2006-08-07 14:18 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-07 10:58 ` Alec Warner
2006-08-07 16:40 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-08-07 21:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-08 10:30 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-08 10:39 ` Simon Stelling
2006-08-08 10:58 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-08 10:57 ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-04 7:54 ` Simon Stelling
2006-08-04 9:01 ` Brian Harring
2006-08-07 13:48 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-07 14:08 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-08 1:44 ` W.Kenworthy
2006-08-08 2:14 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-08-08 10:34 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-08 2:50 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-08 10:40 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-08 12:37 ` Jan Kundrat
2006-08-08 14:50 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-08 15:06 ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-08 20:17 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-08 20:37 ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-08 20:46 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-08-08 21:22 ` Curtis Napier
2006-08-08 15:12 ` Thomas Cort
2006-08-08 20:22 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-08 21:02 ` Richard Fish
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-04 6:21 AW: " Noack, Sebastian
2006-08-07 13:26 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-07 14:53 ` Thomas Cort
2006-08-07 18:48 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-08-07 20:09 ` Marius Mauch
2006-08-07 21:14 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-07 15:04 AW: " Noack, Sebastian
2006-08-07 20:18 ` Enrico Weigelt
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